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Goonswarm Behavioral Correction Initiative: Hulkageddon Infinity, Jr. League

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Naga Elohim
Aeras Krekan Syndicate
#141 - 2012-06-14 13:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Naga Elohim
I never thought I would say this, but Goonswarm has re-ignighted my interest in eve. I log into the forums more than I do the game. This Hulkageddon infinity sounds fun and exciting!

Im gonna give it the ol' college try tonight and see what I can gank. Thank's to Goonswarm for adding to my end game!
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#142 - 2012-06-14 13:10:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
baltec1 wrote:
Simetraz wrote:


So what you are telling me is that you were forced pay the community this time in order to make your projected profit margins after expenses.

Still not emergent though, I did agree that the first Hulkagedden was emergent, but lets face it number 5 might be the biggest success story but it is no longer emergent.

That is all don't read more into it then I have stated, you all are working yourself into a frenzy for no reason.


It's still making content for people.


Nothing more then any corporation or alliance leader does by setting goals.
And definitely not the largest action taken on by the EVE community either.
It is just another player event going on in the sand box.
And like everything else going on right now in EVE.
It effects some and for others they don't even know it is going on.
It is just the way it goes.

Well this has been fun but I have work to do so please carry on without me Big smile

EVERYBODY KNOWS
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#143 - 2012-06-14 13:12:48 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
David Cedarbridge wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


What have you done to provide a large amount of content to the EVE playerbase?


Really ???, this is a terrible come back even for you.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Also, you skirted the truth in your actual reply to me and totally missed the boat on other points.

1) This is the first Hulkageddon actually sponsored by the CFC (or really sponsored by anyone except for a handful of independent donors. Financing, automating, and providing rewards to all participants of a specific level of participation is the very ideal of emergent and evolutionary player created content.

2) Again, the scale of the event is unmatched. Hulkageddon 1-4 only could dream of the sort of turnouts and payouts that this one has benefited from.

Frankly, I'm kinda saddened that I took the bait on this.


So what you are telling me is that you were forced pay the community this time in order to make your projected profit margins after expenses.

Still not emergent though, I did agree that the first Hulkagedden was emergent, but lets face it number 5 might be the biggest success story but it is no longer emergent.

That is all don't read more into it then I have stated, you all are working yourself into a frenzy for no reason.

Again, you keep using words you don't understand.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emergent?s=t

Also, this is the biggest frenzy I think I've ever worked myself into while casually typing words on the Internet since my vacation started. I'm all aflutter.
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#144 - 2012-06-14 13:14:26 UTC
I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.

Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-06-14 13:15:41 UTC
Aryth wrote:
It is also true that we often seek the most public and dramatic display of game mechanics we can find.



Like making sure the Server Population Graph visibly makes evident a sharp plunge to the minimum possible population for server up-time viability.

9,000 sounds about right for that.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#146 - 2012-06-14 13:16:44 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.

Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.


Before this day is over we will also be credited with the changes CCP are going to make to barges.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#147 - 2012-06-14 13:17:25 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.

Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.


Why, absolutely every single person out there mining really isn't. You are so absolutely utterly correct. Want some ice cream ?

It's sososososo tooo tooo tooo true.

Roll

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#148 - 2012-06-14 13:17:50 UTC
Kali Memine wrote:
Whatever you goons are smoking, I want some. 25M for 10 exhumers means 2.5M/exhumer ?! lol, you make this money by doing some fast t1 missions, no need to roam around for hours to find a lonely miner.

Mine more moons and come back with a better offer... or stop trolling the forums.

1/10


It's per Mining Barge. Exhumers are worth 10m. Besides that, not everything is about Isk/hr.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#149 - 2012-06-14 13:26:22 UTC
Kali Memine wrote:
Whatever you goons are smoking, I want some. 25M for 10 exhumers means 2.5M/exhumer ?! lol, you make this money by doing some fast t1 missions, no need to roam around for hours to find a lonely miner.

Mine more moons and come back with a better offer... or stop trolling the forums.

1/10

As mentioned, this offer is not for people interested in isk per hour. This offer is to support those who play EVE in its best form, so they do not need to think about isk per hour. Regrettably we cannot increase the payouts or we risk people attempting to defraud the system, or we would happily do so.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2012-06-14 13:28:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Andoria Thara wrote:
I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.

Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.


Before this day is over we will also be credited with the changes CCP are going to make to barges.

It took about 5 posts in the thread actually.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#151 - 2012-06-14 13:29:03 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Aryth wrote:
It is also true that we often seek the most public and dramatic display of game mechanics we can find.



Like making sure the Server Population Graph visibly makes evident a sharp plunge to the minimum possible population for server up-time viability.

9,000 sounds about right for that.

You're pretty bad at reading graphs (among other things) huh?
Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#152 - 2012-06-14 13:40:47 UTC
I for one think comparing highsec miners to Jews in 1930s Germany is more accurate than not. Long scorned, but filling an important role in the economy (mining in Eve, moneylending in Europe) until some demagogue whips up popular sentiment against them. Their lives are made increasingly untenable until eventually, some eager adherents of the Leader decide to follow his ideas to their inevitable conclusion. Mass slaughter ensues.

There are just two problems with this theory. First, miners are not a race. Ganking a newbie miner isn't a hate crime; it's guidance counselling. Second, even if miners were utterly incapable of being anything other than miners, committing genocide against them is a perfectly legitimate gameplay tactic.

Suffer, nerds.
NJDruid
Dead Roid Society
#153 - 2012-06-14 13:40:49 UTC
Every miner just use a megathron or similar for a couple months . The whole thing will become very boreing for the suicide gankers and they will go back to playing their game I guess.

Another interesting fact I found on the interweb today was that one gram of king cobra venom can kill 50 people .
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-06-14 13:47:27 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:

You're pretty bad at reading graphs (among other things) huh?


It's hilarious when people openly doubt and question their own words.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#155 - 2012-06-14 13:49:12 UTC
Devilish Ledoux wrote:

There are just two problems with this theory. First, miners are not a race. Ganking a newbie miner isn't a hate crime; it's guidance counselling. Second, even if miners were utterly incapable of being anything other than miners, committing genocide against them is a perfectly legitimate gameplay tactic.

Suffer, nerds.



This. EvE is not a nice place. People will be mean to you. That's intended.


"EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world." --CCP Wrangler

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#156 - 2012-06-14 13:49:48 UTC
Things are going well, i just hope CCP won't spoil them.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#157 - 2012-06-14 14:52:32 UTC
Wonderful. More Goon ego at work, making sure we all know about Goonswarm and their need to play at fake hatred to get more attention. OP probably achieved a rare erection after this post.
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#158 - 2012-06-14 15:17:55 UTC
guidance counselling for what though? How to tank a covetor properly? thats not possible, you cant they cant even fit a dcu i have shield skills at maximum and i still only have 5000 hp in one. T1 barges mine for less than a hulk, so they should since they are easier to train into and cost alot less. You get what you paid for, weak hull, lower yield.

Its pretty much understood theres a dislike for mining, i accept that but waging war on accounts possibly as young as 2 weeks now simply because they elected to partake in a different part of the game? Hulkageddon is good, but i dont see bargageddon going quite so well when 2 week old noobs in rookie chat start finding thier retrievers going over and over, that isnt "counselling"

Completely off topic question though. How do i check what a ship has fitted, what mod do i need? and doing such an act doesnt cause aggro or anything right?
Temple Priest
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-06-14 15:25:14 UTC
thank you GSF and corestwo

by any chance does someone know of any gank crews looking for more DPS? or other solo gankers looking to group up? my lowly 2 week alt can't take down the tastier stuff alone Sad
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#160 - 2012-06-14 15:45:27 UTC
Temple Priest wrote:
thank you GSF and corestwo

by any chance does someone know of any gank crews looking for more DPS? or other solo gankers looking to group up? my lowly 2 week alt can't take down the tastier stuff alone Sad

Well, you should be able to take down covetors while you skill up. It'll give you some good practice.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.