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Goonswarm Behavioral Correction Initiative: Hulkageddon Infinity, Jr. League

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#281 - 2012-06-15 03:12:26 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Quote:
Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.


its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges


If you're in a mining barge, you've played for at least two weeks. That's more than long enough to have learned:

CCP Wrangler wrote:
EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.


By the way, accusing the GSF of being unfriendly to newbies is...Roll

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#282 - 2012-06-15 03:15:53 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:


nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt.


T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank.

Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#283 - 2012-06-15 03:17:53 UTC
If you honestly think that mining is playing Eve, then I can only communicate with you in the universal language: Gunfire.
Maddy Joringer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#284 - 2012-06-15 03:21:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Maddy Joringer
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Maddy Joringer wrote:

After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy.


Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game.


Saying "my way or the highway" isn't dismantling arguments .. All i have ever seen here is saying Goons did this Goons did that u should follow it coz we are awezomes.. You still havn't given me proof on your famous accusations " minerz are evil botz Lol they should be keeeeleeed " . If you ever read the opening statement of the thread and some of the replies of your goon folks its clearly targeting an entire community and the result will be the game getting not fun for most of the new players .. but wait.. Be like goon swarm eh..

Attacking Hulks... i understand that better and got very little issues against it ... attacking mining barges..go right ahead , you might convince CCP to make them more survivable in the winter expansion....
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#285 - 2012-06-15 03:23:51 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Quote:
Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.


its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges


Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help.

Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#286 - 2012-06-15 03:25:57 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Maddy Joringer wrote:

After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy.


Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game.


Saying "my way or the highway" isn't dismantling arguments .. All i have ever seen here is saying Goons did this Goons did that u should follow it coz we are awezomes.. You still havn't given me proof on your famous accusations " minerz are evil botz Lol they should be keeeeleeed " . If you ever read the opening statement of the thread and some of the replies of your goon folks its clearly targeting an entire community and the result will be the game getting not fun for most of the new players .. but wait.. Be like goon swarm eh..

Attacking Hulks... i understand that better and got very little issues against it ... attacking mining barges..go right ahead , you might convince CCP to make them more survivable in the winter expansion....


Doesn't matter why we pop them, the fact is that we do. Don't like it? Make a corp to stop us.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Maddy Joringer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#287 - 2012-06-15 03:27:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Maddy Joringer
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Quote:
Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.


its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges


Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help.

Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support.


I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ...
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#288 - 2012-06-15 03:29:45 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Quote:
Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.


its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges


Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help.

Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support.


I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ...


If you hate the idea that violence can come at any time, in any form, no matter where you are, why are you playing a game whose core idea you hate?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#289 - 2012-06-15 03:37:32 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:


nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt.


T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank.

Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness.


gang links thats what i meant, im currently training the siege warfare skill on my orca alt, it will fly the harmonization gang link once im siege link spec 4 or whatever the true skill name is lol (i'll train to lvl 5 as well but i'll feel "safe" enough in space once lvl 4)

Come to think of it everthing fitted to my covetor was t2 (except rigs) and i know what the cpu gulper was now.. yup, yield booster lol. I bet if i take that off my fittings flexibility would go all crazy like. Of course within 2 days i'll be ready to launch my hulk anyway (could do it now even but im patient) so covetor tanking is kind of moot lol. Is tengu a better booster than say, a command ship? i was also thinking of training my alt into command ships but i wont if theres better alternatives /shrug
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#290 - 2012-06-15 03:43:47 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:


nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt.


T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank.

Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness.


gang links thats what i meant, im currently training the siege warfare skill on my orca alt, it will fly the harmonization gang link once im siege link spec 4 or whatever the true skill name is lol (i'll train to lvl 5 as well but i'll feel "safe" enough in space once lvl 4)

Come to think of it everthing fitted to my covetor was t2 (except rigs) and i know what the cpu gulper was now.. yup, yield booster lol. I bet if i take that off my fittings flexibility would go all crazy like. Of course within 2 days i'll be ready to launch my hulk anyway (could do it now even but im patient) so covetor tanking is kind of moot lol. Is tengu a better booster than say, a command ship? i was also thinking of training my alt into command ships but i wont if theres better alternatives /shrug


Command ships give a 3%/level bonus to their respective boosting. T3s give a 5%/level bonus.

You'll also have to tank your hulk. You'll actually have to tank your Hulk much better, because the income from ganking it is higher, so you can spend more to gank it and still turn a profit.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#291 - 2012-06-15 03:45:09 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Quote:
Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.


its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges


Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help.

Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support.


I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ...


Right. So I'm saying get those miners together with some combat vets and work together. We mine all the high end **** in Hulks in our space because we have competent intel and a POS in the same system. There is no reason everyone else can't do the same. Stop mining in hisec space. You get ganked and can't preemptively fight back. Everyone knows this, so stop doing it.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Ludi Burek
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#292 - 2012-06-15 03:45:49 UTC
Short story.

Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months. Yesterday I thought, what the hell I have a bunch of thrashers here, may as well blow them on some mackinaws. Ice belts are empty these days though, but soon enough I find two macks and orca mining away. Didn't even bother to scan them and just warped in with a thrasher and opened on one. He went down very easy. Hardly surprising since he had no midslot modules. After all this time, people still mine like that.

So I go back to jump into another thrasher while my alt is watching cloaked, keeping the warp in point warm. The guy continues pod mining. About 20 minutes later, the other mackinaw pilot starts smacking in russian and the pod warps out. While I'm en route with a new thrasher, 12 jumps, the pod returns with a brand new mack. Lol Everyone still in the same spot. They not even mining. I see no laser effects. Finally, the thrasher arrives and I pop the other mack. Don't want to be accused of picking on one pilot. Roll Also, no tank. Managed to kill his pod too.

My alt travels 5 jumps to get a salvager module. I wasn't really prepared. Come back, salvage the wrecks. The guys are still there. If I had time I would have returned with another thrasher but I couldn't be bothered.


What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the sh1t anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#293 - 2012-06-15 03:47:47 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:

What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.


You're kidding me.


You used a thrasher?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Maddy Joringer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#294 - 2012-06-15 03:51:01 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Short story.

Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months.


What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.


And pigs can fly..

so basically you don't play eve much , but have to accuse players of being imbeciles despite the short experience u had..
Whoz the bigger Imbecile ... stop posting thrash...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#295 - 2012-06-15 03:54:16 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:

What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.

You're kidding me.

You used a thrasher?

Untanked macks.. I guess I can believe it.

Did any of the pods have really expensive stuff in them?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#296 - 2012-06-15 03:54:25 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
Short story.

Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months.


What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.


And pigs can fly..

so basically you don't play eve much , but have to accuse players of being imbeciles despite the short experience u had..
Whoz the bigger Imbecile ... stop posting thrash...


Umm, the guy who got ganked twice in the same spot in an untanked mack after 6 weeks of notice that HAG's going on, maybe?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Torneach
Doomheim
#297 - 2012-06-15 03:54:28 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
Short story.

Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months.


What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.


And pigs can fly..

so basically you don't play eve much , but have to accuse players of being imbeciles despite the short experience u had..
Whoz the bigger Imbecile ... stop posting thrash...


Well I dunno about you, but those players he ganked sure seemed like botters to me.

So if anything he should be applauded for taking them out.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#298 - 2012-06-15 03:55:14 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:

What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.

You're kidding me.

You used a thrasher?

Untanked macks.. I guess I can believe it.

Did any of the pods have really expensive stuff in them?


You mistook the reason for my disbelief.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ludi Burek
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#299 - 2012-06-15 03:55:25 UTC
Maddy Joringer wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
Short story.

Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months.


What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.


And pigs can fly..

so basically you don't play eve much , but have to accuse players of being imbeciles despite the short experience u had..
Whoz the bigger Imbecile ... stop posting thrash...



Tunnel vision much? I play eve plenty. Just happened to not play much recently due to RL. And my experience is not "short one night stand" as you seem to imply Lol . It's just confirming how afkers and botters are still playing the same way despite of the miner ganking crusade. Surely, one would be fitting tanks by now no?
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#300 - 2012-06-15 03:55:58 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Aramatheia wrote:


nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt.


T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank.

Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness.


gang links thats what i meant, im currently training the siege warfare skill on my orca alt, it will fly the harmonization gang link once im siege link spec 4 or whatever the true skill name is lol (i'll train to lvl 5 as well but i'll feel "safe" enough in space once lvl 4)

Come to think of it everthing fitted to my covetor was t2 (except rigs) and i know what the cpu gulper was now.. yup, yield booster lol. I bet if i take that off my fittings flexibility would go all crazy like. Of course within 2 days i'll be ready to launch my hulk anyway (could do it now even but im patient) so covetor tanking is kind of moot lol. Is tengu a better booster than say, a command ship? i was also thinking of training my alt into command ships but i wont if theres better alternatives /shrug


Command ships give a 3%/level bonus to their respective boosting. T3s give a 5%/level bonus.

You'll also have to tank your hulk. You'll actually have to tank your Hulk much better, because the income from ganking it is higher, so you can spend more to gank it and still turn a profit.


yeah my hulk is fitted with invulns a shield extender and has core defence field extender or something rigs. Wow go me for forgetting the name of stuff. Prior to getting shield management to 5 i was 19.7k hp or something with 70+ resists across the board. I have since gotten that skill maxed and further shield capacity from siege warfare skill on my alt while training exhumers to 4 (finishes soon). By the time im siege warfare spec 5 i'll be exhumers 5 too and short of putting money into expensive top end implants will be hard pressed furthering my tank i think (im never fitting expensive mods onto something as weak as a mining ship lol).