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Betrinna Cantis

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#261 - 2012-06-15 02:43:28 UTC

Andoria Thara wrote:

I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.

Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.

I can agree with this to a point. If there wasn't a way to pay for accounts ingame, some people would only have 1 toon. Your statement is stupid and you should look at the bigger picture. Some of thos PLEX accounts actually pay with real money too. Bot should die, I agree with that. RMT is the problem there, not people trying to make a life in New Eden.

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#262 - 2012-06-15 02:44:39 UTC

InternetSpaceship wrote:

So form a god damned corporation that does that. God, you are so ******* dense. That is exactly what the corporation system in Eve was intended for. Make a police corp, make a merc corp, make any kind of corp that offers protection for miners. You're allowed to do that.

DO IT.

"Welcome to Joringer Inc. Here's your complimentary Osprey for joining our growing community of miners. Be sure to fit the Shield Extender you've been provided with. If you do not have the skill needed to use a Shield Extender please take one from the corporate hanger. Be sure to insure your complimentary Osprey in the event that the evil Goonswarm attempt to blow it up. Our communal mining operations are every Saturday and Sunday evening at 20:00 Eve Time!"

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Maddy Joringer

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 52

#263 - 2012-06-15 02:46:21 UTC

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when all else fails...make it personal . this seems to be a trend with goonswarm folks around here .. Lol

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

Likes received: 6,953

#264 - 2012-06-15 02:47:38 UTC

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

InternetSpaceship wrote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

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Maddy Joringer Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 52	#265 - 2012-06-15 02:50:17 UTC Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

Aramatheia

Tiffany and Co.

Likes received: 229

#266 - 2012-06-15 02:50:29 UTC

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players .

This entire thread is created for attention anyway

Given that the vast majority of miners aren't actually players the only loss will be a small amount of revenue. I'm sure CCP is willing to take a small hit to their subscription income if it means a reduction in bots. And even those miners that are real humans don't actually play Eve while mining anyway. I'm not going to shed a tear over their loss.

Eve will not only survive, but culling the folks that go out of their way to find ways to run Eve while not actually tabbed into the game; will cause the game to flourish more than it already is. Greater conflict will bring greater interest.

I have never seen you sitting next to me watching me chat in game as i mine, please tell me how you have this information? if you have secretly installed cameras in my house i WILL call authorities... lol

Also i see players and bots lumped into the same paragraph, barely 5 words between them. I am not a bot and i get pretty tired of the forum accusations that i bot because of the skillset i have currently been using/training. If mining was an exploit, something that needed to be "fixed" it wouldnt be in the game at all. Waging war on noobs in retrievers now is just silly beyond words. Not to mention the shift to covetors is quite possibly the human players trying to isolate themselves from the botters by flying something different to the bots therefore escaping the unreasonable claims that they too are bots. Bots wont mysteriously reship if they get engaged/blown up, they will just get a new hulk. For them max yield is thier life. Whats a 300m isk ship if they make billions a day across thier bot accounts (which they then "sell" but immediately hack and rob the accounts of losers who fall for the isk for dollars scam anyway)?

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#267 - 2012-06-15 02:50:58 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

there is none.. all experienced players are based in null and all noobs are based in high sec. Which makes quiet hard for newbs and experianced players to co=operate and help each other.

Not a single thing you stated here is actually true. My own alliance is living proof of this if you're familiar with how we operate, "Hello newbie, welcome to your first day in Eve. Pod yourself to 0.0 and never look back!"

if that's true.. gratz to you folks ..

IF CCP made like 20 systems as rookie system where people learn and the rest as PVP systems. things would automatically work out fine. the biggest problem is concord...

The really crazy thing is that anyone can do it. You don't need to be some massive nullsec empire with unlimited Technitium income to pull this off. Goonswarm started as a single corporation years ago living in the Verge Vendor region. The corp supplied its newbie pilots with unlimited free frigates paid for by the insurance income when they exploded. "Welcome to Goonfleet, here's your Kestrel (we didn't know any better back then), go blow something (yourself) up!" Every newbie was given a package with all the skillbooks they would need for the next several months, donated by older pilots. The corp was profitable on its own just from a small tax premium and in its first few months of operation introduced hundreds of new pilots to Eve Online. Most of the pilots today doing horrible evil things to you, even The Mittani, started as a baby goon being given his first frigate by an older pilot.

Anyone can do this in Eve-Online, they just need to give a damn.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#268 - 2012-06-15 02:52:01 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

Likes received: 6,953

#269 - 2012-06-15 02:53:50 UTC

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ...

Good job miners, you got a change though *cheers*

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#270 - 2012-06-15 02:54:29 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

when all else fails...make it personal . this seems to be a trend with goonswarm folks around here .. Lol

This wasn't a personal attack. I was hoping it would inspire you. You claim newbie pilots can't interact with experienced pilots, that's not true; the older pilots just need to step up.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#271 - 2012-06-15 02:56:37 UTC

Alavaria Fera wrote:

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ...

Good job miners, you got a change though *cheers*

Its not a bad change really. The harder your tank the lower your yield. Should have been how it was from the start. The real issue is that mining is so boring that miners are nearly forced to not actually play the game while doing. I don't actually feel bad about ganking them because no one actually forces you to do such a horribly dull job in Eve, its their own fault, but CCP could greatly improve affairs by making mining interesting game play.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

RubyPorto

RubysRhymes

Likes received: 5,663

#272 - 2012-06-15 02:57:24 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

You can tank a Covetor such that it is uneconomical to gank it.

14.8k EHP vs Void. This will survive a solo T2 Catalyst gank. It may survive a pair of t1 Catalysts. Either way, it's more expensive to gank than the 2.5m bounty + 5m Isk drop it produces.

[Covetor, Tank]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Zainou 'Gypsy' Electronics EE-604

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Maddy Joringer

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 52

#273 - 2012-06-15 02:59:40 UTC | Edited by: Maddy Joringer

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah ..
Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing ..

stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon

@RubyPorto - aah thnx for the fit ...

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#274 - 2012-06-15 03:00:31 UTC | Edited by: Tarsus Zateki

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Just keep moving those goal posts! If you move them far enough you might actually come out of this ahead.

And what does Hulkageddon have to do with botters? Hulkageddon is a pretty simple concept. Some "evil" people have placed a bounty on T2 Barges. So we kill T2 Barges to get the bounty. The Hulk is what matters, whether they're botting or not is irrelevant.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

RubyPorto

RubysRhymes

Likes received: 5,663

#275 - 2012-06-15 03:00:42 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.

Maddy Joringer

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 52

#276 - 2012-06-15 03:03:37 UTC | Edited by: Maddy Joringer

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Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.

its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

Likes received: 6,953

#277 - 2012-06-15 03:04:13 UTC

RubyPorto wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game.

Posts like that make it all worth it.

Aramatheia

Tiffany and Co.

Likes received: 229

#278 - 2012-06-15 03:06:52 UTC

Alavaria Fera wrote:

Tarsus Zateki wrote:

You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles.

Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ...

Good job miners, you got a change though *cheers*

mining is still going to be lock a rock activate beam watch, wait... wait... move ore to orca/jetcan

still not "emergent" gameplay /sigh lol

Will in fact make it harder for ppl who genuinely want to screw with bots to do so, short of reporting them - which is boring

Tarsus Zateki

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 897

#279 - 2012-06-15 03:09:39 UTC

Maddy Joringer wrote:

After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy.

Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Aramatheia

Tiffany and Co.

Likes received: 229

#280 - 2012-06-15 03:12:17 UTC

RubyPorto wrote:

Maddy Joringer wrote:

Quote:

No way, you're teaching them to TANK?

What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes?

still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..

nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt.

Also last week for a laugh i entered and flew around in a wormhole i scanned down. I was sure to bookmark my exit but then buzzed around scanning a little, found some anomalies and such, but didnt have assets nearby i could use to actually do anything so i eventually left. The whole no communication beacon/no local thing was fun. Theres was a cheetah somewhere too, no doubt trying to find the random interloper in a probe lol

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