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Goonswarm Behavioral Correction Initiative: Hulkageddon Infinity, Jr. League

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#201 - 2012-06-14 21:49:17 UTC
MiserySignals wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints.

Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs.


Holy crap. 4 and two pods!. You were busy.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Legion Air
#202 - 2012-06-14 21:53:36 UTC
Mia MuuMaa wrote:
So let me get this right....

all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......

right?


Only after the mining barge hunt fails as well, new bounties are put on mining battleships and any vessels found mining, that and also fails to drive mineral prices back up. And they're on a deadline now that CCP announced exhumer changes for the winter. Should be fun to watch tho.
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#203 - 2012-06-14 21:54:52 UTC
LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#204 - 2012-06-14 22:06:36 UTC
Shea Valerien wrote:
LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.


Thought your Covetor was safe, didn't you?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tusen Takk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#205 - 2012-06-14 22:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tusen Takk
Alavaria Fera wrote:

So we should go in covops ships and just AFK cloak right?

what else would we do?


Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Dental Floss wrote:
So let me ask you this: are you guys satisfied with the amount of tears this statement has generated considering that 90% of the last 3 pages have been various goons posting, "YEAH, WE'RE DOING THIS."


Yeah I feel a distinct lack of miners.

miners only come to the forums to cry, they havent started to properly cry yet
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#206 - 2012-06-14 22:51:15 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
Mia MuuMaa wrote:
So let me get this right....

all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......

right?


Only after the mining barge hunt fails as well, new bounties are put on mining battleships and any vessels found mining, that and also fails to drive mineral prices back up. And they're on a deadline now that CCP announced exhumer changes for the winter. Should be fun to watch tho.

lowends have skyrocketed: it's highends that are slumping, but you can't mine highends in empire so if we had 1t in minerals but were losing money it would have to be highends

sorry but your allegations don't even make any sense

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#207 - 2012-06-14 22:53:35 UTC
MiserySignals wrote:
Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" so much as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs.

Evil, but impressive.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#208 - 2012-06-14 23:01:11 UTC
MiserySignals wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints.

Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" so much as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs.



But cxvbfgsx and dgfdgfdsg and cxvbfgsx were only in Retrievers man. How can you live with yourself after spoiling the experience of these starry-eyed, naive, hopeful young bot-scripts?

You monster!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#209 - 2012-06-14 23:24:04 UTC
Shea Valerien wrote:
LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.


We tried sticking a cork in this spigot that keeps spewing technitium but the cork blew out and took some poor newbie's head off.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#210 - 2012-06-14 23:26:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
But cxvbfgsx and dgfdgfdsg and cxvbfgsx were only in Retrievers man. How can you live with yourself after spoiling the experience of these starry-eyed, naive, hopeful young bot-scripts?

You monster!

If they were bots, I hope you reported them to the appropriate authorities.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#211 - 2012-06-14 23:27:01 UTC
servellious wrote:

You know thats a good question. I honestly cant come up with a good way to make mining fun. I suspect thats why it hasnt changed over the years at all. Maybe if you could blow up asteroids and collect the debris from within by just picking it up?


Utilize a system similar to planetary interaction's planetary view to scan an asteroid and see where the goodies are. Then deploy mining charges around seams of ore in a manner similar to scan probing. How many you can deploy and the area they effect determined by skill points and ship. Then press the big red button. Tractor beams to scoop up the goodies. Difficult for bots to abuse and explosions to entertain the drooling masses.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#212 - 2012-06-14 23:32:11 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Shea Valerien wrote:
LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.

We tried sticking a cork in this spigot that keeps spewing technitium but the cork blew out and took some poor newbie's head off.

He had gotten the medbay orientation and remembered to keep his clone updated, right?

:ohdear:

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Henchmen 21
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#213 - 2012-06-15 00:31:32 UTC
A few thoughts....

So we now ridiculously high priced basic minerals and thus anything made from them. Meanwhile there is an organized attack on players likely under 2-3 months old. This is going to result in a universe where a new players have to either spend a fortune in real money or spend their first few months saving for a cruiser.

So why would anyone even bother to stay with this game if starting from scratch? I'm sure I am not the only one who doesn't find grinding for isk as a leisure activity. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun. People may have played EVE back when it started and everything was super expensive but there are many many more options for people to spend their free time on now. I don't mine and couldn't care less about ganking hulks but no new players is going to lead to a very stagnant universe. Careful what you wish for you might just get it.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#214 - 2012-06-15 00:34:30 UTC
Henchmen 21 wrote:
. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun.

I agree! That's why I suggest you spend your time having fun by ganking miners. Goonswarm foots the bill, so you don't need to!

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Henchmen 21
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#215 - 2012-06-15 00:49:53 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Henchmen 21 wrote:
. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun.

I agree! That's why I suggest you spend your time having fun by ganking miners. Goonswarm foots the bill, so you don't need to!



To each his own but I always pull the the little guy and the underdog. If RL left me with any real enthusiasm to log in I'd be more likely to RR a miner then gank him.
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#216 - 2012-06-15 00:55:34 UTC
Mira Lynne wrote:
I can see Goon Corp chat:
>Guys, i just made a thread. Go spam it.
>k
>k
>if you say so
>k
>ok
>k
>k
>k
>alright
>k
>ok
>k
>k
>ok
>k



No one types in corp chat.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Betrinna Cantis
#217 - 2012-06-15 01:03:09 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Steve BHD wrote:
.........why?


Cause they are proving that null is completely dead.
This could have been offered years ago and nothing would have happened cause players had better things to do then waste there time on this.

However now apparently that has changed.
I seriously doubt the number of gankers has remained the same.

So it comes down to what were the gankers doing before.

It would be interesting to see how many accounts are actually ganking people, and see how those numbers have changed over the years.

The people that are ganking have carebear alts. Tell me that is not true....P

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#218 - 2012-06-15 01:12:56 UTC
Betrinna Cantis wrote:

The people that are ganking have carebear alts. Tell me that is not true....P


It's not true.

(You didn't ask for proof, nor honesty)

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
BILLY TH3 KID
Bhaals Deep
#219 - 2012-06-15 01:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: BILLY TH3 KID
" New ORE frig: we want this ship to replace current mining frigates as low barrier of entry vessel, but also fulfill high-end gameplay expectations by providing a very mobile platform for mining in hostile space. Lowest mining output, decent ore bay, little to no resilience.
Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP.
Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance. Has the largest ore bay, similear to the size of a jet can, second best mining output but less EHP than the procurer mining barge.
Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up. "

Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#220 - 2012-06-15 01:22:52 UTC
BILLY TH3 KID wrote:
" New ORE frig: we want this ship to replace current mining frigates as low barrier of entry vessel, but also fulfill high-end gameplay expectations by providing a very mobile platform for mining in hostile space. Lowest mining output, decent ore bay, little to no resilience.
Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP.
Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance. Has the largest ore bay, similear to the size of a jet can, second best mining output but less EHP than the procurer mining barge.
Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up. "

Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Aaah, lest you forget!

Your ISK/hr will be far lower than a max mining yield hulk.

You will never make the switch.

Things are only impossible until they are not.