EVE General Discussion

You know what?

Now that you mention it, maybe that's it: EVE is a multi-tasking game (and I'm not talking about alts here — that's just a different way of doing the same thing). Off the top of my head I can't think of a single thing that you cannot do while also doing something else. Maybe character customisation, but that's it, and that's not really a gameplay activity anyway.

Maybe the “problem” is that some people (a lot of people, tbh) simply aren't multi-taskers. The whole “train while you roam while you trade while you do industry while you sing songs in vent while you trash-talk in local” thing is just too much at once for them. So they just do one or maybe two things at a time, and while they might not actually play that way, they think in terms of doing things serially. After I've done this, I'll do that, and then I'll do the other thing. Maybe that's what trips them up about training and what makes EVE seem so slow: because they don't fill the time out (because they can't or because they just don't think to do it).

So when you hand them something like the what-to-do chart, they pick a single box and go off and do that. They don't pick a whole bunch of them and do them all at once.


…well, it's a hypothesis, at least.

I didn't get tired of making 30+ jumps for a few months... fly jump wee... it was all so bright and new.

Now I do it if it has value (IE Jita Run to sell a shiny piece of bling) or because we're going to do a 100 jump roam tonight.

I didn't find Eve slow. I still don't find it slow. There is stuff to do. It is just a different change of pace with no game leading you around to do things. Instead, they expect you to stop and venture out. The independence is discomforting for some.

If you want to get into titan bridges wtih a 5 day old character feel free

This is exactly how I became a programmer, I played EQ, and like this game, it was insane.

Its just too bad that there are no other big Space MMO's so I thought I would try EVE, but Its like going from java back to assembly code for no reason.

Get out.

At least he gave you a like

Tal

I had to LOL at this

But yeah, you won't get much sympathy for this point of view here, and I'm not sure I sympathize either. EVE is certainly the only space game in town, and that's why a lot of players end up tolerating the shenanigans that go on here, but that doesn't mean it has to be more "accessible" or casual-friendly in order to become the space game that some hypothetical millions might want to play.

It's the game it is, you either like it or don't. When I started playing, there was hardly any tutorial at all, nor was there an Epic Arc, yet I found the whole experience profoundly enchanting - the lore, the danger, the sense of being there.


And the time it takes to train? On the one hand it's an obvious ploy to make money, but on the other hand, as an MMO mechanic, it's actually extremely immersive, because (granted that the levels make a difference in gameplay, which they mostly do), when you upgrade after all that waiting and anticipation, it's so much more rewarding. Nowadays, I think little of training times in days for a level of something - granted that's because there are lots of other things I can do while I wait, but even as a noob, there are things to do while you wait for your half hour. Try browsing the market and comparing things, seeing what does what, getting some sense of ships you'd like to fly, and what skills you'd need - that kind of thing.

There's something to be said for delayed gratification after all.

From CCP's point of view, sure they're capitalists, but they also are enthusiasts and have always had a vision for the game, a vision that's stayed fairly consistent (and if it occasionally hasn't, like it appeared to do last year, the playerbase has reminded them).

You'll just have to wait till a multiplayer X game comes along, I'm afraid, because CCP will never accommodate EVE being a pure casual's game (well, at least not the spaceships side, maybe the WiS content will be more casual-friendly when it comes eventually).

My god. It's full of fail.

I would really love to see you develop the kernel of an operating system in Java. Should be really easy considering how good you are at Java and how easy Java is to use.

Wait a second, you have no idea how a computer works and learned Java because it's easy? Frack me mate, nerf computers so their entire instruction set consists of 2 commands: stop and go. That way we can make computers into nonfunctional, boring, useless prolefeed that any Joe can be good at "programming".

I could not win Eve in five minutes, therefore Eve is too hard and boring.

1) There's more character development in EVE then you're going to find in any other MMO on the market, including EQ and UO.

2) MMO's that allow you to reach max level in a very short period of time, coinsidentally, also have very little to do until you reach max level.

3) EVE isn't every other MMO. There is no defined "end game".

4) A normal person playing WoW doesn't reach the level cap in a month.

5) EVE's world is bigger then any other MMO you're going to play, and travel is an important part of the game.

6) Post with your main kitty cat.