EVE Fiction

I am still interested in fleshing out the New Eden timeline. Tieing some of the loose ends together and getting a clearer picture of where we come from.. So.... What really Ancient factions have we encountered in the fiction?

We know of the Architects, the Yan Jung, the Conformists and Tau Cetans as original immigrating groups into New Eden.. Anyone know of any others?

A big help from CCP would be an official dating of the artifacts we have studied for many years, like Talocan, Yan Jung and Sleeper.. We already have a pretty good idea of when the Takhmal were about and who they were..

Proof?

The Book of Eve is still a good source of hintspiration, too..

The Jovians were made up of many factions, much as humanity in present day New Eden is.. Why anyone finds it a great stretch that the Jovian Empire controlled all of New Eden at some point in the past is beyond me..

That the bloodlines that make up modern New Eden were anything but a part of this ancient empire is also beyond my understanding. The Conformists, the Tau Cetans, the MegaCorporations.. All part of a vast interstellar empire that colonized New Eden. The arguments that there were no central authorities amongst humanity guiding it's colonization efforts is beyond ludicrous to me..

Grious admits that the faction we understand to be Jovian were a small and weak faction in the greater scheme.. That the Elders gained an advantage in this hierarchy and exploited it to their own great benifit. One thing remains constant about we humans.. We desire to order our existance as we have from time immemorial.. We are social creatures.. Technically we are all still Terrans, a creature evolved and adapted upon a small backwater planet in the Milky Way.

Amarrians are not a race unto themselves, they are human.. The only exception to this MAY be the Jovians, humans who took evolutionary physics into their own hands to become something more or less than human, maybe both.. And even so, their descendants must have devolved back to baseline human to repopulate New Eden..

I would love to see some proof to the contrary...

Yes, I have been meaning to address just this obvious inspiration via a new classic sci fi trilogy; i.e. the Matrix.. I found myself hospitalized recently and with way too much free time on my hands, but, still need to order my thoughts before presenting them fully.

Watching the trilogy brings the obvious correlations into a better focus, but, I still have some further study to do.. Architects is one of the more blatant terms and ideas used..

Anderson and Smith show some interesting correlations as well..

The Architects are the agents of balance, keeping it all running smoothly..

Do I know? No.. But, I believe...

I'd agree.. I think..

The Sleepers have reached their own apotheosis of sorts in The Other. Much as John Anderson aka Neo was the apotheosis of humanity in the Matrix. Exemplified in Love and Sacrifice. But, expressed rather in Hate and Mayhem in Eve. Rather, the AI Watcher Smith, freed by Neo who wrought Entropy into the Matrix, threatening both the humans and the machines... He who couldn't understand Love and Sacrifice, until he had his own apotheosis in the Sacrifice and death of Neo..

The Sleepers are a dead end of sorts for the human race...

And then, we find the Yan Jung to be the originators of the only ancient piece of equipment or data referring to Singularity.. The Yang Jungs, though excelling in shielding, also delved heavily into semiotic and advanced computer theorum far before the Sleepers...

The Jove excell in subterfuge, covert operations and spying.. Did they steal this knowledge from the Yan Jungs? Grious expresses no love lost between the Yan Jungs and the early Jove. The parent race also to the Sleepers..

The Yan Jung are not mentioned in the Sleepers database, only Terran and Talocan, with Terran technology holding the greater amount of storage space.. Now becoming the Wiki Warrior we all love to hate, We find the obvious associations with China in the Yan Jungs.. We find Yan, which means Fire, Jung translates to Yung, Yong, "courage" or "brave" as an adjective; "soldier" as a noun. Note for those tying all the pieces together the Fire motif and Zoroastrianism, the religion that spawned the Amarr..

Or, maybe we shift the form and enunciation a bit to get Huang Long. Earth.... The Gallente are represented by the Ouroborus, or Azure Dragon. The Caldari by the Vermilion Bird. The Minmatar by the Shelled Tortoise and the Amarr by the White Tiger.. Haven't done the cardinals yet, but, you might find they corrospond to the races, as well..

Which uses the Cardinal Directions so familiar in Eve.. Four Directions\Factions\Elements\Animals Comprising the Terrans and the Jove the Fifth..

Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves, I've always said.. Such would argue for a strong Terran Central Authority, given credence by things like Europa Consortium Yards .. Tying to maybe Europe, or maybe the Moon Europa in the Terran Solar system.

And arguing there was cooperation amongst the colonists, not a mad dash by several opposing factions.. ;see Consortium plz..

I once read something by someone on here arguing the opposite, economically analyzed.. That the Terrans would be left the poor, materially dispossessed race that would end up at the bootom of the food chain, but, a stronger Terrra makes more sense.. Else why would it have a strong presence in New Eden at ALL? Why would Terra be whispered in hushed, awe-filled tones, ancient Terra..

Something that tied all the various faiths and fundamentals that we see expressed in New Eden in peaceful co-existence.. A Unified Catholic Church... Until the Jove started meddling, anyway.. The Amarr might be their greatest success..



Ooops, pure speculation again.. But it makes sense..

If we step back and wonder what if (sci fi),, Europa is a moon orbiting Jupiter, the Jovian planet.. In the Terran solar system.. Third rock from the sun is there, too...

So we have a Consortium of some makeup we don't know for sure, though we have the following almost certain players.. A MegaCorporation, the Tau Cetans, The Conformists, the proto-Jove, and the dispossessed masses who were capable of star travel, possibly via a Mission of the Unified Catholic Church, as many religious colonies are inferred in the fiction to not mean something..

Also, we see the pre-eminence of the Sol System, and Europa the figurative base of the endeavor.. Which, could mean the Jovians lived along side the Terrans from the beginning.. And the Tau Cetans seem to be major players, too.. To guess much beyond this gets sticky..

Terran technology appears in the Sleeper Database, the only other being Talocan technology.. I would guess the Talocan are the proto-Jovians, the structures likely date to the First or Second Jovian Empire.. The Sleeper Enclaves are "upgraded" examples of the same general construction patterns and naming conventions.. Wormhole Space is obviously a secret the Jovians had maintained for eons, until now.. This is their last retreat from humanity.. Anoikis.

The Jovians are likely tribal, some being nomadic, some, perhaps, not.. They will be secretive, though, and not likely express themselves as Jovians.. After all, noone has ever said that some Jove don't work alongside us now.... Clones can be made to express a multitude of genetic traits reflected in an unlimited number of possibilities.. If they are a truly infomorphic society, the question becomes is that the mistake they made, abandoning their genetic code to the soup they made?

And as such, they are progressively more lost or "untied" to the being they inhabit, making them morose and sucidal? And what happens when they do? Are they simply collected into the virtuality again? Dust Soldiers don't need pods... The Enclaves themselves contain the equipment to harness the minds of the Jovians...


IT is very Concord-esque imho...

How old is Grious?

Non-human, yes. Slavers and other creatures. There is no way these things could have naturally evolved over a few thousand years. However they could have been introduced from the Milky Way, but seems unlikely given their dispersion.

I don't know of any native humanoid life?

Another thing I'm curious about; did the original wormhole to the New Eden cluster displace its users in time as well as space?