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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#61 - 2012-06-13 19:20:02 UTC
I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.
Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-06-13 19:20:59 UTC
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
I remember my introductory megathread fondly.

You never forget your first.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#63 - 2012-06-13 19:21:33 UTC
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Sov bill to concord (when we remember to pay them), capital and supercapital subsidies, fuel for cap ops, poses and the jb network and a ****-tonne of ship reimbursements. And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.


To give some contrast, as tech moons are limited to the north (eve in easy mode IMO), getting enough moon goo to actually achieve a great profit is hard and requires a lot of hauling. BUT we have enough to have a ship replacement program for sanctioned roams and all CTA's. Currently, though, we do not have a capital investment program.

When you say "null sov alliances that make trillions off of moon goo" you are talking about tech moons, which are owned by PL and Goons.... currently (due to them being in "better space" I am not for balancing space but there needs to be benefits to going to other regions, but this is for another thread... someday). In order to make trillions off of the other stuff, like plat, mercury, chromium, hafnium, even neodynium only makes like a few billion a month and that is with 15 - 20 poses.

*looks up and sees previous posts* Who would ever pay to be a part of a forum? That is just stupid.
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-06-13 19:25:16 UTC
the tech in one place makes sense, when the tech isn't shared (OTEC)... goons claim to enjoy pvp, but apparently not in their home...
or maybe their leadership likes their main income source, and don't wanna give up their personal cap fleets
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#65 - 2012-06-13 19:26:20 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.


payment is optional and is a requirement for registered members who want no ads, and being a paid member is one of the requirements for joining GSF

I've seen people pay full subscription fees to games they don't play anymore just to post on the forums.

also reddit and 4chan get a metric ton of cash from ads, but the simple fact is if you want a robust, decent, functional service for more than 20 people you need to pay cold hard cash, frequently
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-06-13 19:27:02 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
the tech in one place makes sense, when the tech isn't shared (OTEC)... goons claim to enjoy pvp, but apparently not in their home...
or maybe their leadership likes their main income source, and don't wanna give up their personal cap fleets


PVP in our home is the most fun, that means we don't have to listen to dbrb stories while travelling.
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-06-13 19:29:46 UTC
dbrb?
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#68 - 2012-06-13 19:29:56 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
the tech in one place makes sense, when the tech isn't shared (OTEC)... goons claim to enjoy pvp, but apparently not in their home...
or maybe their leadership likes their main income source, and don't wanna give up their personal cap fleets


Once again the OP's ignorance is astonishing, OTEC =/= CFC, we shoot at the other people in OTEC (PL,NC. etc.) all the time while enjoying the fairly shared, wholesome pie that is tech. We just all band together to shoot at poor people when they try and take a piece of our pie.
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-06-13 19:33:56 UTC
that's the point, you PROTECT each other's tech, instead of trying to get it for yourselves.
there should be a bunch of rocks, used to beat the other guyS senseless, not a bunch of guys sharing a pie
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#70 - 2012-06-13 19:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
zxc Uisen wrote:
dbrb?


From the SA EVE thread:

"The truffle pig or "DBRB" is a pig used for locating ships of the capital, supercapital or freighter class in nullsec space in EVE Online. The pig has a good sense of smell and is able to identify capital ships from as far as 5 regions away. Once a capital has been identified, the pig emits a keening sound referred to as "barkbarkbarkbark" which summons swarms of peculiar creatures known as "goons", which will immediately attack and attempt to destroy any ships in the area, even if they are not capital-class vessels. This will occasionally result in the death of the pig.

If the pig is unable to sniff out any of these ships, after a while it will instead begin to speak, regaling any nearby listeners with tales about its life and past experiences. There is evidence that extended listening causes irreversible brain damage, but whether this is a defensive mechanism or simply an evolutionary oddity is unknown."
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#71 - 2012-06-13 19:34:57 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
that's the point, you PROTECT each other's tech, instead of trying to get it for yourselves.
there should be a bunch of rocks, used to beat the other guyS senseless, not a bunch of guys sharing a pie


We have evolved to the point where we can do both. :)
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-06-13 19:38:19 UTC
that's a bad sign, then, not working as intended lol

i'm sending a petition now
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#73 - 2012-06-13 19:40:01 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
that's a bad sign, then, not working as intended lol

i'm sending a petition now


I'm pretty sure cooperation and teamwork are 'working as intended'.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-06-13 19:41:19 UTC
I don't PvP so I never actually have to worry about getting a ship replaced.

However, I have access to systems to sell goods I manufacture at better profit margins then if I was't where I am, as well as the ability to research and invent easier then I could in hi sec systems. To be honest, I don't even know how you do research or invention in hi sec, no station I've ever been in has ever allowed me to do it.

I don't really care what they do with the isk they make, and I would never expect them to give any to me when they provide me with opportunities I didn't have before, as well as a fun place to play. I don't know why I, as a rank and file member, would expect goons to pay me to play were I otherwise couldn't.
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-06-13 19:49:17 UTC  |  Edited by: zxc Uisen
Cameron Cahill wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:
that's a bad sign, then, not working as intended lol

i'm sending a petition now


I'm pretty sure cooperation and teamwork are 'working as intended'.


you should edit that, if i searched i would surely find you or your leadership saying the exact opposite lol


anyways, thread has really gone sideways...
thx for the info in here, and the "debate"
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2012-06-13 19:53:31 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:
that's a bad sign, then, not working as intended lol

i'm sending a petition now


I'm pretty sure cooperation and teamwork are 'working as intended'.


you should edit that, if i searched i would surely find you or your leadership saying the exact opposite lol


I eagerly await the results of you're search. Good luck.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#77 - 2012-06-13 19:53:31 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.


payment is optional and is a requirement for registered members who want no ads, and being a paid member is one of the requirements for joining GSF

I've seen people pay full subscription fees to games they don't play anymore just to post on the forums.

also reddit and 4chan get a metric ton of cash from ads, but the simple fact is if you want a robust, decent, functional service for more than 20 people you need to pay cold hard cash, frequently


I still pay a subscription to EQ1 just so I can log in once a month and say what's up.

.
Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2012-06-13 20:04:52 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.

It's a small price to pay to avoid being associated with poors who cannot afford to pay the King's Ransom of $10.
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2012-06-13 20:07:37 UTC
"$10? I support a huge website that has the best games/politics/sports/gun/cooking/role play games/automobiles/music/tv/comic book forums on the Internet? But I could buy a baconactor meal for that much!"
Pisov viet
Perkone
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-06-13 20:11:48 UTC
Dont believe these lie. The lowlife member of the CFC alliance are not allowed to see even a dime of the two trillion isk a tech moon brings in each week. It is confiscated by the alliance directorate in the most complete darkness. We are forced to defend these moons during mandatory CTAs.
We have to pay 250m each month in order to fund our ship reimbursment (althrough it is a widely spread practice, even Nulli Secunda does it), and are forbidden to interract with empire. All importation and exportation have to go through the alliance, which in turn also decide of buying and selling prices. Running your own transport ship to jita is an offense worth an immediate ban from all CFC alliances.

But we still put up with that because we want to get our hand in the corp wallet