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A quote from a beloved GM




Now I don't have a problem with rookie protectionism in the rookie systems but when you extend it outside those systems I have a problem as it makes eve a less complete place and at the moment this is only going to be enforced in Arnon. But personally I don't want to see this outside of rookie systems [including Arnon]. In Hatakani there is an incursion atm, so shall we protect rookies from those too? The GM discretion has to play a part but a lot of GM discretion is ill advised. I don't kill rookies unless they are generally war targets or something similiar. In-game mechanics should be used to help rookies instead of artificially coddling them and its not as if they have much to lose anyway most of the time.

Would rookie alts be protected too in the future? New players who bought an old character. Stop spoiling the sandbox for the majority for the sake of the new.

I agree that protecting systems that are distant from the rookie systems is a bad idea. But I also agree completely with the GMs that greifing in those systems hampers CCPs growth, and is frankly not cool.

Move the Career agents to the systems next to the rookie systems. Then have it protected. Problems (both of them) solved.

Agreed.

How lame.

And so the descent down the slippery slope begins.

Haved you thought about growing a pair and stop moaning about how you cant kill noobs because you are too lame to kick it with the big boys? My god we might as well line them up liek a firing squad if you want a kill that easily!

Go learn to pvp properly, get in low sec and fight someone who can fight back, and just leave noobies alone

The issue is that things are based on *system* - and it keeps extending, with potential for hitting the likes of hek, lustrevik, etc. Enjoy getting banned for can flipping in a trade hub, or ninja-looting in a major mission hub, etc

Yeah because you can tell who's a real rookie by their character age. Alt accounts of vets are definitely rookie, and casual players who aren't online for hours every day to learn pvp are no longer "rookie" on day 15, right? You turn 18 today, son, now go hang with the big boys, nevermind that you're rolled as an industrialist.

Extend it to all of the 7% of systems in Eve that is highsec and be done with it.

Test server is for testing. The idea that SiSi exist for noobs to learn is ridiculous.

Protectionism is a step back for sure,  and it doesn't help noobs.

Most noobs click through the intro,  coast through the entry missions and disregard warnings as fast as possible to get outside and play for that first time.  

I never read the intro or did entry missions.  I vaguely remember a gate warning me I was wandering away from the playground.  It wasn't long after before I traversed low sec and took the pod express home.  

You can continue to extend protection system to system. It won't work. What about all the noobs that travel through Hag?  Or parts or several other low sec areas daily?

It's not Anyones fault for killing them there.  The gate lights up and you prepare to fire. By the time your done researching the targets age it may be gone with it's load of Riggs, drugs, or whatever.  

Simply painting them pink won't save them from insta lock.

If you make them invincible  you create a reconisance exploit.

If you want to coddle noobs and treat them like children, you need to do this.

1. They are pink in space,  on the HUD, and in local.

2. Whenever they jump into a system outside of their home system,  there should be a warning box for all to see that says.  "Clubbing baby seals is wrong!  So is  repeatedly killing disoriented noobs who are probably lost.  If we catch you clubbing baby seals or noobs you will be banned FOREVA!!!"

3. They are worthless.  There is nothing in the wreck and no salvage.

4. If there ship is destroyed it respawns at their home system mods and cargo intact.  Same with there pods.  If they don't get podded. They can dock up and "Pod" jump to their home station.

5. They should be restricted to their home systems for at least 2 weeks.  
Give them some hyper gate's that leads to stuff like a consensual combat arena  where they can blow eachother up for lulz withought fear of loosing their stuff. 
There can be different gates like the combat sites on the test server.  
Maybe one where they can fight older players if they wish. 

But they have to stay in the incubator for two weeks that's the rule.  
Anything less is like leaving the front door of your house open in the middle of NewYork and taking a nap,  Assuming your toddler won't  go outside and that if he does the nice homeless man down the street will bring him safely home.

Eve meet hello kitty IN SPACE!!!

idea of having rookie systems is ridiculous i have no idea which systems are rookie systems

repeatedly messing around with noobies doing tutorials whatever should be of course banned but those aside they dont need any special treatment, especially because there's no way to tell if the pilot is a real noob or not