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returning to EvE, looking for L4 ship set ups

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PUNISHER MK9
Mara Draven Institution
#1 - 2012-06-13 09:31:04 UTC
I have about 55m SP (3 mill unallocated) primarily in ship command, drones, missles , gunnery. when I last played my Golem was top of the heap but it appears much has changed ( I had to warp out of damsel in distress l3 when reinforcments showed up lol) my torps cannot even hit ships 45 km out now (swear I used to blow em up as far out as 90km before).

so I guess I need a new mission running boat. I would like solid DPS, but really I would like a strong tank to allow for forgiving plays as I relarn how to play this game. I havve heard Navy issue raven is still strong for L4 but I remember thier tanks being a bit light. I have heard of rattlesnakes being good? and This tengu ship which when I look up has abysmal stats so I dont get how it runs missions.

If people could help me out with some options and set ups for safe reasonably fast l4 mission boats it would really be great. I have a decent budget but nothing insane 1mm +/- 500m

PS have a 30m char on second account runs dominix, but I dont think I want to 2box again.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#2 - 2012-06-13 10:18:02 UTC
Rattle with passive regenerating tank and 3 T2 drone damage modules. It has 750-800dps with t2 cruises and wardens 2 + 150-190 points per second shield regeneration which translates either into 600 omni-tank or 750+ 2 resists tank. Something like this - just one more drone dmage module in low and minus navigation computer in middle (put shield regeneration or AB there instead).

Also there is actively tanked variant with 1000+ dps.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#3 - 2012-06-13 10:35:25 UTC
Machariel is one of the best Missions ships (if you want to make ISK aka blitz the missions to get LPs)

But it is not cheap, optimal you need a deadpsace x-type MWD and a deadspace shieldbooster.
Compared to the Mach a Tengu is cheap and can tank better, but the killspeed is not as good.

IMPORTEN: It's importen how YOU want to fly the mission. Some people want an insane capstable tank because they dont want to watch the tank/cap all the time. Some people want to brawl, some want to make ISK.

If you know what you want you can search for a Ship that matches your play style.

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

Shatner19
X.S. Industries
#4 - 2012-06-13 10:48:19 UTC
what else can you fly?

1.) machariel
2.) tengu
3.) Vargur
4.) Nightmare

tends to top out the most lauded pve ships in game. a cheaper alternative would be an active tanked rattlesnake. the new drone damage mods changed the meta-fits from all out tank to gank

The cheapest would be a shield fitted domi - rigged and fitted for maximum drone damage its power house of a boat for fractions of the best pirate, tech II, or tech III ships. Also most of these ships are going to be faction/deadspace fitted (I run cheap tech II fits) so they attract gankers like flies. a tech II fit domi makes the game pretty safe.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-13 12:36:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
if you plan on flying in amarr space, the nightmare is your best choice by far. 1k+ dps with almost 50km optimal burns through missions so fast, you rarely even need to run your shield booster. for gurista and serpentis i recommend a tengu. for angels, machariel is king.

I should buy an Ishtar.

PUNISHER MK9
Mara Draven Institution
#6 - 2012-06-14 07:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: PUNISHER MK9
What is a nice set up for a tengu and dom for l4 mission running? Seems like a nice change and a solid price range for me.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2012-06-14 11:56:16 UTC
Copypasta:

[Dominix, L4s]

Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Garde II x5

929dps, 317 tank weakest against angels, which is enough unless you mess up triggers, you can use a 4th hardener for Angels to be extra safe.

[Tengu, L4s]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

756 dps, more than enough tank with AB, cap-stable without TP for maximum easy mode. This tengu is efficient but not cheap because of CN BCUs, which can't really be dropped without compromising the fit because of CPU issues.
Mazzy Star
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-06-14 14:46:54 UTC
That armor tank is too flimsy for comfort. You're much better off running a shield tank for a gank dominix. The navy domi does it even better. Something like:


[Dominix, LOLSHIELD t2]
Co-Processor II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Flakey Foont
#9 - 2012-06-14 18:09:50 UTC
Mazzy Star wrote:
That armor tank is too flimsy for comfort. You're much better off running a shield tank for a gank dominix. The navy domi does it even better. Something like:


[Dominix, LOLSHIELD t2]
Co-Processor II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5


No sentry rig?
Mazzy Star
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-06-14 18:13:04 UTC
No need for one. The new damage control modules are better than even then T2 sentry damage rig. With 3 of the drone damage modules, the stacking penalty is so bad that a T1 sentry damage rig gives you all of 20 damage while eating up tons of calibration.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#11 - 2012-06-16 17:56:31 UTC
That Tengu fit above is totaly overtanked. I got an Tengu fitting that does ~280 HP/s and in most missions you dont even need to aktive the Shield Booster.

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

PUNISHER MK9
Mara Draven Institution
#12 - 2012-06-21 23:51:19 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
That Tengu fit above is totaly overtanked. I got an Tengu fitting that does ~280 HP/s and in most missions you dont even need to aktive the Shield Booster.



Care to list the set up? Also if using a tengu do I have to fly alot aka speed tanking? or standard orbiting type of deal work?