Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Add a specialized class of ships that can hunt cloaked ships by using a ship dedicated module that emits an energy enery pulse radiating of the specially constructed hull.

This pulse has limited range and the effect gets progressively weaker the further away a cloaked ship lurks and does not uncloak, nor causes aggression, nor cause any damage. What it does is add a faint graphically visible interference ripple or glow, lasting a very brief time. The effect is of progressively decreasing strength and duration as distance increases.

To a skilled pilot this should be enough to allow active hunting on stationary targets in close proximity to celestial objects using repeated and strategic "ping" attempts! The maximum optimal range should be no more then 5km with maybe 10km falloff, beyond 15km, it should be useless without moving the ship in preparation for another attempt!
It should also be quite energy intensive requiring energy support for practical repeated use.

To remain hidden, cloaked vessels should be far from warp in points near obvious target locations. Another evasive tactic is to be moving to escape a dedicated hunt. You are still pretty safe when doing this, space is vast once your 30km from an obvious location moving in a random direction!

Sitting in a cloaked ship close to an obvious location should be quite "vulnerable" to directed attempts of uncloaking.
Swarming a gate with tens of these ships should be impractical due to the energy use and visual confusion it causes when trying to spot the faint effect of a pulse hit among so many moving ships.

These ships should be quite vulnerable, fast and agile, but costly for their limited use.

In short it is a tactical ship to complement a more capable fleet!

Yes! Let's make it nigh on impossible to run gatecamps! that's EXACTLY what EVE needs!

The problem is that it's useless in dealing with cloaky AFKers (which are what all the whine threads are about). The only times where it would be useful would be things like gatecamps and preventing bombing runs, which are situations where cloaks are working as intended. So, your proposal does nothing about the 'broken' uses of cloaks and breaks the legitimate uses.

So you admit it's a ******* terrible idea then?

Thread over.

Not at all, but your reading skills are obviously less then limited!

Are you unaware of the huge speed reduction of fitting a non-cov-ops cloak? And that you can't warp cloaked, so you are a completely sitting duck to anyone who sees you land and flies at you at a decent pace, unless you leave again before they're in point range.

And your scanres is nerfed hugely, plus the decloak delay, so you can't point anything that shouldn't be moving unescorted anyway.

Dude I was talking about the weaknesses of cloaked ship before even factoring in your idea.

ISK isn't a valid balancing factor.
Neither is 'vulnerable'. RR exists. Ganglinks and implants for buffer & resists exist. Hell active tanking implants & drugs too if you make it unable to receive RR while doing whatever it's doing.

Seriously what does your idea do that a smartbombing detection fleet/wing wouldn't? High cap use, poor for other offencive roles, AoE detected of cloaky ships. Smartbombs & bombs as already stated.

Are you saying HICs aren't balanced? Or that being 'vulnerable' in your idea's case would be something very similar to the no-RR-while-doing-their-thing that HICs have, but suddenly for your ship idea all these more coordinated or niche mechanics would just not be used to minimise the vulnerability ...for some unknown reason?

Please clarify
a) what your idea would do mechanically differently to smartbombs and bombers.
b) how the ship mounting these would be different to bombers.
c) why we need this second approach to dealing with minimally effective cloaked ships, remembering that wormhole anomolies can be found with no scanner, there is no local, dynamic connections can be created by attackers at will, and yet people risk their expensive solo T3s and fleets with sieged/triaged/sleeper-tackled stuff all the time.

Perhaps the problem is cynos? That 1 cheap small ship can permit unrestricted numbers to pour onto a grid at a specific position? Then fix cynos/force projection, don't nerf cloaks.

This is not a good idea.. you'll soon have multiple cloak "hunting" ships at every gate camp.. in every wormhole. Nothing should ever be able to detect a cloak...ever ...unless you just want to do away with cloaking all together.