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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-06-12 16:48:26 UTC
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


- Like some people said, you would awake in a "soft clone", which is a backup you update now and then just in case. Rigth now, it isn't a game mechanic because... Well, we can't die out of pods. Or you could assume that this is already inside your medical clone pack.

- DUST brain snapshoot tech is inside the dusters head, with a sleeper reverse-engineered tech implant.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-06-12 16:54:19 UTC
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


- Like some people said, you would awake in a "soft clone", which is a backup you update now and then just in case. Rigth now, it isn't a game mechanic because... Well, we can't die out of pods. Or you could assume that this is already inside your medical clone pack.

- DUST brain snapshoot tech is inside the dusters head, with a sleeper reverse-engineered tech implant.


Actually given the ship the people come into the station in (the Echelon for those who cant be bothered to check) im more inclined to think its reverse engineered Sansha tech, although i havent read templar 1 (does it specifically say sleeper tech in there?).

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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-06-12 17:05:43 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:


Actually given the ship the people come into the station in (the Echelon for those who cant be bothered to check) im more inclined to think its reverse engineered Sansha tech, although i havent read templar 1 (does it specifically say sleeper tech in there?).


What do you mean with people coming into station in Echelons? Yes, the book revolves totally about the tech being of sleeper origin. Sansha appear around too, but I don't want to spoil it. I'll only say that it has nothing to do with dusters tech.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#24 - 2012-06-12 19:14:21 UTC
Dust Bunnies btw. Not Dusters. Smile Bunnies for short.

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2012-06-12 19:23:47 UTC
The scanner will be injected under your skin like a tracker chip in cats and dogs... lol

FC, what do?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#26 - 2012-06-12 19:25:58 UTC
Actually, it's more like:

The scanner will replace a large portion of your brain, replacing the links between the hemispheres.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-06-12 19:39:36 UTC
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile



The main issue of a pod pilot is that through his pod he is able to pilot a craft in a much superior way to ships flown by crews who do not operate their craft with the speed of thought.

The pod also makes is possible to take a "snapshot" of your personality at the moment of death and also induce death when destruction of the clone seems imminent. However that is not its main function, this function can be done by any lab equipment.

The dust implants are something completely different, they are based on or use sleeper implants that are not totally understood. They are able to transmit the personality and thoughts and essence of person, as said through quantum entanglement, to another clone, greatly speeding up the cloning and transfer and especially the needed equipment of such a transfer.

This tech is like I said not fully understood so using it does contain risks and its quite possible long terms effects are not positive. Capsuleers could however incorperate this tech into their clones and implants and thus be (more) safe when leaving their pods.

Their pod's would still retain their status though, because they are the essence of what makes a capsuleers so dangerous. Killing with thought at the speed of light. That and the fact you just can't kill em.

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#28 - 2012-06-12 19:41:47 UTC
For Dust Bunnies see this:

Youtube: Dust 514 implant


For Capsuleers...
Beyond the capsule we'd be screwed - one of the reasons I don't leave my capsule often, it's not like there's any need to after all...
The way I would work it if I had to (if there were something I needed to do outside a capsule; a dodgy deal I didn't want fluid router logs for... heck, an ability to open The Door so "pleasurable company" could get into my quarters Blink ) would be to request the cloning facility keep a complete record of my next scan, a back-up which could be downloaded to another clone in the event of... "incidents".
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-06-12 20:47:46 UTC
The stories imply that you will survive being killed outside of your pod. In game this has never happened, so until it is possible we don't know the mechanism. Probably a full dump right as you leave your capsule to go walking around. Maybe that is why the WiS loading screen takes so long.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-06-12 21:03:14 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


It means CCP is willing to make/unmake lore whenever they want to make a console flop.Roll

Excerpt from EVE: The Empyrean Age
Copyright 2008 by CCP hf.

Before Tibus could answer, the Broker jumped back and pulled himself on top of the assembly line. Moving quickly, he darted in between the half-constructed armor components and cast molds, working his way towards the alloy smelters.

Dozens of workers herded toward the assembly line and strained over each other to watch as the broker climbed to the maintenance platform, emerging just below the sixth smelter in the line. To everyone's suprise, he activated the release vent. As molten alloy poured into the mold casing below, the Broker stepped off the platform. He vaporized in a fiery flash of orange steam, all but disappearing from the existence as the vat of liquid metal consumed him.

Tibus Heth, too stunned to speak, stared at his right hand - the one he had used to make his pact with the Broker. His heart nearly stopped when the earpiece in his satchel bagan to ring.

The broker is a capsuleer, and the person on the phone was the Broker.

I guess books copyrighted by CCP don't count as lore?

The only thing that can kill a capsuleer is to not have a clone.
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