EVE General Discussion

So some of the high sec miner types are all up in arms because people are killing their "max yield but not enough tank to stand up to a destoyer" Hulks. I imagine the silent majority are simply taking the more than reasonable counter-steps needed to frustrate the gankers, but this goes out to the stubborn foot stomping entitled few who thinks the game working as intended is somehow wrong.

Talk to High Sec Mission runners.

I'm serious. Just talk to them.. They did this thing called "ADAPTING" and it's much less profitable/satisfying to screw with most of them now.

You see, in the past, some Mission runners felt like the game owed them to right to put full officer fits on mission running ships (these were the "Max-yeild Hulks of mission running"). Well, some other folks used in game items (ship scanners, probes ect) and mechanics (suicide ganking) to take these things away from the super shiney mission runners. Some (the weak) quit in frustration.

The rest (the strong) stopped putting so much shiney crap on mission ships (and/or filled their fracking EM hole on their tengus lol) and are still quietly mission running in high sec to this very day.

The "Incursion Communities" (rofl) just experianced this too. They were doing their own max yeild thing. Then players came in and killed the mother ship or join tehir fleet and withheld reps or simply suicide ganked them out of their 5 bil isk Nightmares/vindicators ect. Then CCP came down from on high and killed the farmable things.

The dedicated incursion runners (the strong) are still at it, the oppurtunistic, fair weather, incursion gold miners (the weak) are long gone, hopefully never to return.

So it is with EVE, this huge Electro-Darwinian Experiment, the strong survive, the weak perish ( but only after multiple General Discussion forum whiney posts, of course).
I'm just glad dinosaurs didn't have forums, or Asteroids would have been nerfed eons ago.........And then what would miners mine?

Not sure if it is strong vs weak or just committed vs not. The ones that left adapted as well, just in a way that fit them.

Not at all. People play games for enjoyment, and if they can find more enjoyment elsewhere, who can blame them for leaving? Now if they never touched a computer again because of a gank, then they would have problems.

Confirming I have a giant EM hole on my mission runner.

You seem to be confusing Eve with Darwin. Eve is a game. Your strong and your weak are internet database operators. Eve is not real, you know, and what you achieve here does not mean anything. So puff yourself up about how tough you are and continue to delude yourself with your badass game.

The reason why mission runners don't buy officer stuff is because of its price, we would rather buy a few pvp ships instead of getting a few % on some stat :)

Each of us mission runners have our own dps/tank balance that we prefer.

You can't really compare a combat/non combat ship activity.

I run with standard t2 stuff all day everyday. If I do get ganked, well, it would pretty easy to replace.

I lol'ed at both posts above... Agreed!

"EVE is a game" is true. It is also a dodge.

EVE is (among other things) an activity. One filled with both weak willed and strong willed people. As in real life, the strong willed will find a way to do what they want regardless of the actions of others. The Weak willed will quit or whine/rage about unfariness. If you don't think enough of your chosen pass time/activiy to adapt to chainging circumstances to stay in that passtime/activity (because it's just a game), then why do it in the 1st place?

The people whining on the forums about the unfairness of having their Hulk smashed rather than being silent aren't observing the "it's just a game rule". If it were just a game to them, they'd simpyl log out/unsub and be gone, right?

This is not to say that EVE online is perfect and that no dissent is warranted, we all have thing we don't like, or that we think could be inproved. But we aren't talking about that, we are talking about weak minded individuals who buy into fallacy-land logic like "what's bad for me is bad for the game".

Which is why I say EVE may not be "real", but it mimics real life in one key aspect: only the strong survive.

'Tis true, my son. You are strong now.

Your 2 bil tanked Hulk now takes 2 catalysts to pop instead of one.

Please explain to me how using a combat ship to attack a non-combat ship is strong?