These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Out of Pod Experience

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Video Card upgrade

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-11 21:33:29 UTC
This is the wrong toon, but now I'm too lazy to fix it - Long time eve player here - since 2005.

I'm currently running a GTX570 and GTX560 (the nicer version) and have 3 screens that I normally run around 8 clients on two screens, and use the third for watching netflix or speadsheets or similar. With the new video cards, I was considering selling the two that I have, and either getting a GTX 670/680 or a 7970 - seeing as now one card can support 3 monitors.

My question is does anyone have any input into any (or if all) would be able to support running that many clients across 3 monitors, along with having youtube and/or netflix video running as well. I'm curious if video memory is a factor at all either with those demands.

I do folding@home somewhat, so nvidia could be preferred, but could always do bitcoin mining or something, if people think ATI is the better option.

Thanks again for your help!
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#2 - 2012-06-11 21:38:39 UTC
The more screens, the more important GPU RAM becomes. On a triple head setup, the difference between the 1gb and the 2gb versions of the same card really shows. Also... we know what that 3rd screen is for :P

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#3 - 2012-06-11 21:53:28 UTC
actually the number of monitors is what is squeezing GPU ram badly. If 2Gb can be enough for a general 3 heads setup, I doubt it will be enough to handle 8 clients if you don't properly background them everytime you switch from one to another. So, if you just like alt-tabbing between them you need a gtx 680 4Gb or even better 2 gtx 670 _NOT in SLI_ which means many things, from the PSU to the mobo and the CPU. So, check your wallet before starting the upgrade

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-06-11 22:02:05 UTC
Well with the setup I have now, I can run the 8 clients and netflix (or whatever ;) just fine.

If I ended up getting two video cards would defeat the purpose of what I was going for - changing two cards for one powerful one that is capable of doing it all - and maybe saving some noise/heat/electricity. Maybe should just keep what I have now
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#5 - 2012-06-11 22:09:04 UTC
there are gtx670 4gb too if you want a single gpu which is not sucking too much energy but yes your setup is far from being obsolete :)

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-11 22:17:52 UTC
The other issue might be a 7950 or 7970 with 3gb and a lower price. Is kinda hard to decide what would work, as not a lot of people out there that would test this :)

The 670 4gb version is an option, but again is pricey as is basically the cost of the 680. No real way to know if any of these cards would work I guess
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#7 - 2012-06-11 22:25:37 UTC
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro wrote:
Well with the setup I have now, I can run the 8 clients and netflix (or whatever ;) just fine.

Then you do not need to upgrade

But hey if you feel like throwing lots of money down a hole I'm sure I could provide you with my paypal details

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-06-11 22:29:08 UTC
Who said I "needed" to upgrade? I "wanted" to upgrade to see if I can save on some heat/noise/electricity by trading two still new cards for one - costing really nothing to upgrade.

This is all present in the thread if you read it.

3/10
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#9 - 2012-06-11 22:33:16 UTC
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro wrote:
Who said I "needed" to upgrade? I "wanted" to upgrade to see if I can save on some heat/noise/electricity by trading two still new cards for one - costing really nothing to upgrade.

This is all present in the thread if you read it.

3/10

You could save heat/noise/electricity by not F@H

But hey it's your money, you can spend it any wasteful way you please

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-11 22:38:20 UTC
Stop hijacking the thread with useless comments, go be obnoxious elsewhere.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#11 - 2012-06-11 22:40:48 UTC
I personally use an nvidia card but I'm not at all an nvidia fanboy. Though from what I've been reading recently the gtx670 is faster than the 7970 at 1980x1020 in almost every game but Metro2033 for its intense use of heavy textures and dunno what else. This result is generally considered to be achieved by better drivers and optimization. At higher ress instead the ati is best becasue it has a much higher bandwith (192Gb/s the 670 Vs 264Gb/s the 7970) which is more important the more you scale your resolution. In this case the numbers of heads shouldn't count too much even if I'd say 3Gb is better than 2 :)
I'm curious to know if anyone out there has the ati card going on a similar setup, it's for sure an interesting card but so far, talking about EVE at 1980, nvidia should be best.

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#12 - 2012-06-11 22:56:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Copine Callmeknau
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro wrote:
Stop hijacking the thread with useless comments, go be obnoxious elsewhere.

This whole thread is useless


'Hey, I have a graphics card that does everything I want it to do flawlessly. I run a ridiculous amount of clients on three screens, and I also make sure to have my gfx card at 100% load when I'm not playing games. But oh noes, I find heat and noise and power consumption to be too high! Obviously the solution to my problems is to spend upwards of $500 on unnecessary hardware. Which hardware is going to be the best at doing what my current setup already does?'


protip: Stop wasting watts on F@H (you aren't curing cancer, you're burning precious hours of hardware life and making your power company lots of money), and go buy your wife something nice with that cash before she leaves you for someone not essentially feeding money into a garbage disposal.



See the difference was I wasn't actually trolling you until this post, ass.


edit: Also don't take the dawning feeling of stupidity you are getting and turn it into misdirected anger against people on the forums that are actually trying to make your computer system better.

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-06-11 23:13:48 UTC
Dude, no one cares what you have to say. I'm asking a hardware question regarding a game, to other people who might know the answer. You're contributing nothing of value to the discussion, except trying to pick a fight with me, which isn't going to happen. If you're curious why, read my first sentence again. If you're butt hurt that I can afford decent equipment and like to use it - again, no one cares.

I'll go ahead and report you if you'd like. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then to freak out for no reason, then stop posting.
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-06-11 23:22:32 UTC
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:
I personally use an nvidia card but I'm not at all an nvidia fanboy. Though from what I've been reading recently the gtx670 is faster than the 7970 at 1980x1020 in almost every game but Metro2033 for its intense use of heavy textures and dunno what else. This result is generally considered to be achieved by better drivers and optimization. At higher ress instead the ati is best becasue it has a much higher bandwith (192Gb/s the 670 Vs 264Gb/s the 7970) which is more important the more you scale your resolution. In this case the numbers of heads shouldn't count too much even if I'd say 3Gb is better than 2 :)
I'm curious to know if anyone out there has the ati card going on a similar setup, it's for sure an interesting card but so far, talking about EVE at 1980, nvidia should be best.


I could do either nvidia or ATI myself too, I haven't drunk the kool-aid like some people have. I do usually run 1980x1020 for most things. Its difficult really to make my mind up regarding which would be best, but either way isn't really that big of a deal as the prices on Ebay for my two current cards have been about the same - and the current cards seem to have decent mail in rebates and specials.

Maybe someone out there also uses a lot of clients on an ATI setup and has something to offer
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#15 - 2012-06-11 23:55:27 UTC
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro wrote:
If you're butt hurt that I can afford decent equipment and like to use it - again, no one cares.

ahahaahaha
My own computer equipment is well detailed in these forums, I have nothing to be butthurt about.

I'm guessing the difference between our rigs is that my money actually goes into useful computer parts, not crap for the hell of it.


It's actually in my job description to protect stupid people from themselves, I see you are beyond saving though.

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-06-12 00:14:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Paracetamoxyfrusebendro
Ok, I reported you.

You make no sense, at all, in the least and are completely driven to try to take this thread off topic. You must work for a very professional company to have that written in your job description.

The fact that your computer equipment is well detailed in these forums has nothing to do with my question or this thread. Again, no one cares.

Your guess is wrong, I get plenty of use out of my computer equipment - and if you had the ability to comprehend what you read you'd see that trading these two cards for one would cost zero money while reducing heat and noise and electricity.

If you can't understand why trading X for Y, where the trade costs little to no money, uses less electricity, produces less heat and is quieter while still getting the job done is a good idea - I feel sorry for the people you are 'protecting'.

Again, for the third time, unless you have something to add to the discussion besides personal attacks or interjecting your little comments that are of zero substance, just stop posting
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#17 - 2012-06-12 01:27:59 UTC
another lil tip for the gtx imho is that even if they both support 4 monitors (3+1 actually, meaning you could spread one single desktop on 3 heads and still use a 4th for something else) is that the ati has 1 dvi + 1 hdmi + 2 display port, while the gtx670 has 2 dvi + 2 hdmi (or 2 dvi + 1 hdmi + 1 dp on the reference I guess). Prolly not what should make your decision still..... +1 for the gtx :)
Only exception I found so far about the ati is this beast: http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-radeon-hd-7970-directcu-ii-review/

Best gtx670 imho is this: http://vr-zone.com/articles/gigabyte-gtx-670-oc-windforce-3x-2gb-review/15831.html

Also noise, heat and watt consumption are still on the nvidia side, and before I stop looking like an nvidia fanboy after saying I'm not, here is a good comparision to look at: http://techreport.com/articles.x/22922/7

as you can read there
Quote:
These power results are a bit odd since we're driving three monitors throughout our tests.


I suggest you to read all the other pages as well ;)

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#18 - 2012-06-12 01:33:49 UTC
I am confused, you have a 570 and 560 in the same system? I know you can turn one into a physx compute unit but you cant SLI them because they are different cards, If you want an 80% inprovement in frames, get a second 570 and SLI them together, they are real cheap on ebay.

https://www.facebook.com/RipSeanVileRatSmith shoot at blue for Vile Rat http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73406
ISD Stensson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-12 01:38:33 UTC
Please keep friendly atmosphere during posting. Be courteous when disagreeing with others. It is possible to disagree without being insulting.

[b]ISD Stensson Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#20 - 2012-06-12 01:45:35 UTC
Quote:
get a second 570 and SLI them together

if you SLI them then bye bye 3rd monitor P

__________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you
12Next page