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David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-06-17 01:20:02 UTC
xxxAlloxxx wrote:

You speak like you are an elite null sec pvp'er yet goons/CFC in general hate "elite pvp'ers" or that attitude. You are a hypocrite and a idiot, congratulations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman
I'm sorry you had to make up some sort of evil version of myself to hype yourself up to get angry at.

xxxAlloxxx wrote:

Also you ignore the fact that most low sec pvp'ers are null sec bitter vets who got tired of being a monkey and wanted to think for themselves. I will say that null sec fc's have a lot on there plate and that position is possibly the only spot that requires any real skill, sorry also your cloak y probers who are heroes onto themselves. Other then those two positions everything else is exactly how crafty stated it, press f1 when told and orbit anchor and warp when told to. You even get told how to fit your ships and how to fly them : /.

Who said anything about "most" low sec anything? Do please explain to me what differentiates a "true low sec elite pvper" from any other player other than an overly inflated ego and less friends to fly with?

Also, your attempted wingmanning for Croc there still missed the mark. My question was very specific so I'm sorry you two seem to have a hard time hitting the mark or even keeping up with the question. Do please explain to me what function "orbit and press F1 holds for a pilot of an: Interceptor, Interdictor, any sort of frigate really, ECM ship of any real degree, logistics ship, anti-support ship in any of a dozen flavors, combat recons in their many and varied sorts. I'm being unfair I'm sure, but somebody who un-ironically refers to themself as an "elite pvper" should probably know at least as much about those ships as a player that's been around for a year right?

xxxAlloxxx wrote:
Feel free to keep blundering onto here and making yourself look like a fool.

You're right. The more time I spend around you guys the more I feel like a fool but its certainly not for being wrong or pretending to be an expert on things that I'm not.
McOboe
Viscosity
#102 - 2012-06-17 06:26:22 UTC  |  Edited by: McOboe
Ok, main topic- are high-sec war-decs too expensive? First, war-decs in EVE shouldn't be compared to real life in regards to the cost of saying, "I declare war on X". Why? Real-world, sanctioned wars are declared by nation-states. All other "declared" wars, (such as UBL declaring Jihad against the Western world) are not sanctioned, recognized wars. Corporations and Alliances in EVE are not nation-states (with the exception of null-sec alliances that have sovereignty). In order for Corps/Alliances to fight legally in en masse, they must pay for the privilege (the war-dec process). Given that wars are disruptive to the EVE economy (look at it from the standpoint of CONCORD's mission to keep the peace), wars against large targets should be proportionally more expensive. If there is a fault in the current system, it's that the size of both parties to the war should be factored in to the cost. Additionally, that large Alliances should also have to pay a sizable sum to declare war against anyone, given how disruptive their actions will be.

My two cents.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2012-06-17 08:22:44 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
And what about the Jump Freighter filled with Moon Goon?

Oh yeah, you are a liar like all goons.


Where is that?

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David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2012-06-17 08:54:52 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
And what about the Jump Freighter filled with Moon Goon?

Oh yeah, you are a liar like all goons.


Where is that?

he's talking about some ICE dude who lost an ark with some ferrogel reactions or something equally stupid. Can you believe it? Pubbies think we care about personal pos reactions.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#105 - 2012-06-17 08:59:45 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:
he's talking about some ICE dude who lost an ark with some ferrogel reactions or something equally stupid. Can you believe it? Pubbies think we care about personal pos reactions.


The best part is that they don't realize that we mock goons who lose haulers in hisec far more than they ever will.

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Powers Sa
#106 - 2012-06-17 23:48:34 UTC
xxxAlloxxx wrote:

Near the end it looks to me like they want the CFC to team up with euni?

[ 2012.06.12 19:25:09 ] xxxAlloxxx > from what I last read you guys had decided to run with test
[ 2012.06.12 19:25:42 ] xxxAlloxxx > yes
[ 2012.06.12 19:25:43 ] Kelduum Revaan > TEST offered us free access to NPC fountain, as a bootstrap for a larger program
[ 2012.06.12 19:25:45 ] xxxAlloxxx > that null sec camp
[ 2012.06.12 19:25:54 ] xxxAlloxxx > it is in test space or there abouts
[ 2012.06.12 19:25:56 ] masty > ok well kelduum it was nice to talk to you
[ 2012.06.12 19:26:06 ] masty > i hope you do us some pleasure of coming down personally
[ 2012.06.12 19:26:14 ] Kelduum Revaan > so we can 'test' things out and make sure we have the links worked out before we scale it up

[ 2012.06.12 19:27:02 ] xxxAlloxxx > so are you saying there is a larger plan to join the CFC?
[ 2012.06.12 19:27:33 ] Kelduum Revaan > nope, more the other way around
[ 2012.06.12 19:27:48 ] Kelduum Revaan > the CFC has a significant proportion of E-UNI alumni
[ 2012.06.12 19:28:21 ] xxxAlloxxx > k I had my fun... gl hf
[ 2012.06.12 19:28:26 ] Kelduum Revaan > o7

This war has been loads of fun so far, hope it continues!!!

This needs to be corrected.
TEST has many pet projects, and one of them is Eve University. A lot of eve university guys feed directly into TEST. The rest of the CFC does NOT have Eve university set blue. Other examples of people they have blue that the CFC as a whole don't have standings for: The 99 percent and The Aurora Shadow.

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Crefakis
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#107 - 2012-06-18 17:48:29 UTC
Crafty fired a lee enfield in cherno ~~
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#108 - 2012-06-18 17:52:25 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Laktos wrote:
Pretty much. Goons were sick of getting harassed by constant decs. They are primarily carebears so this is understandable.

Yep, you reached down from camping Jita and slaps us in Dek where we were ratting.

Come on, you can at least get a ship with a cloak in to camp, right? I mean .... come on, a T1 frigate or something won't hurt your wallet that bad.


You know what happens when there is an AFK cloaky in Local.

It shuts down all activity in the Null system.

No it doesn't. Why would you spread such obvious falsehoods?

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