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Serena Serene
Heretic University
#61 - 2012-06-14 20:06:54 UTC
Mazzy Star wrote:
It's worth noting that you don't necessarily have to break his tank to "win" the engagement (at least under my definition of win Pirate). If you get to a point where he can't kill you (e.g., his drones are dead, guns can't track you at a close orbit, etc.), you can hold him indefinitely with your warp scrambler and there's not much he can do about it. This can be a good time to inquire about a ransom payment to let him return to his missions. Keep up the good work.


Hm.. good idea. I need to be careful of arriving support the target might have, though, I guess.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#62 - 2012-06-15 03:43:32 UTC
Aulx-Gao Ekanon wrote:
Serena, you are a bad, bad person and you should be punished harshly.
I volunteer to deal the punishment.
Afterward, you should go steal more stuff so that you are in need of additional punishment.



Cool

This thread is now officially full of win.....Lol

Also, will pay 1 million ISK to watch said punishment......Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#63 - 2012-06-15 04:04:08 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Aulx-Gao Ekanon wrote:
Serena, you are a bad, bad person and you should be punished harshly.
I volunteer to deal the punishment.
Afterward, you should go steal more stuff so that you are in need of additional punishment.



Cool

This thread is now officially full of win.....Lol

Also, will pay 1 million ISK to watch said punishment......Bear


Well .. I'll continue to steal stuff.

But given that I'd want any punishment, should it happen, to stay in private P, and that I was taught to be very mistrusting in this cold harsh universe, and that money is a good motivation, and that money has been offered for said punishment to be not private...

I'll rather run away than be punished.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#64 - 2012-06-15 05:11:04 UTC
I for one, applaud you.

It is truly heartwarming to hear of a ballsy frigate pilot risking getting blasted by a battlecruiser and Marauder to make some ISK quick.

Good on you.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Nave Drallig
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-15 05:55:23 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
Oh my. Now that was disillusioning.

I was stealing loot from a Raven pilot. The whole thing was actually going back and forth a bit, with him warping out of the mission every now and then. As he was not coming back for a while one time, I thought he was already done with his objective or so .. and went my way.
10 minutes later I came through that system again and decided to warp to that mission spot, just to take a look.

And there he was again. I scooped up some loot, then was shot at.
As often before I got away with some scratches to my armor. But these cruise missiles were eating through my shields pretty fast, so I figured, as I was hurrying back to Dodixie that neither my catalyst (which I can't really fit with much of a tank), nor my incursus in its current state would be of help.

I quickly changed my incursus fit to one with an armor repairer and some cap mods so I could run it.. and back at that Raven!

He still was there.. I engaged.. and..

Wow, I actually got away alive. The "fight" lasted about 15 seconds and I managed to destroy one of his Valkyrie drones before I had to flee, barely getting away with some scratches to my structure.

Guess it was a great show of hybris that I thought I could maybe last long enough to kill the drones, hehe...
I didn't fly back. I was taking so much damage, and gaining experience is one thing, running into certain destruction without the prospect to accomplish much is something else.

Maybe it would have been better against a ship with turrets, assuming they wouldn't hit me, I don't know.
I'll keep trying and look forward to flying the cruiser which was donated to me so generously (even though I'll have to train auto cannons to be able to fly it as I got it).

Thanks again for that and the money I got from another person!

Edit:
By the way.. I thought I'd die of a heart attack or something like that during that whole thing, hehe xD



one thing you have to be careful of if they have missles, rockets, etc. anything like that you cant speed tank it so try and avoid most caldari ships because they are missle heavy.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#66 - 2012-06-15 06:05:27 UTC
Nave Drallig wrote:

one thing you have to be careful of if they have missles, rockets, etc. anything like that you cant speed tank it so try and avoid most caldari ships because they are missle heavy.


Yes, I noticed. I just was hoping, after reading that missiles do less damage to fast and small targets, I'd be fast and small enough to take low enough damage so my repairer could keep up. As it turned out, I was wrong.

In hindsight I wonder if it would have worked out if I had killed his drones one after the other, warping out after each one to let the repairer do its thing.
But even if that would have been possible, theoretically, it would've been very risky and that guy could have warped away at any point after me having to warp out.
Nave Drallig
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-06-15 06:10:31 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
Nave Drallig wrote:

one thing you have to be careful of if they have missles, rockets, etc. anything like that you cant speed tank it so try and avoid most caldari ships because they are missle heavy.


Yes, I noticed. I just was hoping, after reading that missiles do less damage to fast and small targets, I'd be fast and small enough to take low enough damage so my repairer could keep up. As it turned out, I was wrong.

In hindsight I wonder if it would have worked out if I had killed his drones one after the other, warping out after each one to let the repairer do its thing.
But even if that would have been possible, theoretically, it would've been very risky and that guy could have warped away at any point after me having to warp out.


since my first week in eve i transferred to low sec so it makes me go Shocked when people don't have scrams/disruptors equipped... its scary these people exist and somehow live long enough to keep playing, now i have had a few ships without them but they were designed for plexing for FW so if i saw anyone on short range i turned tail but every other ship i fly has one.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#68 - 2012-06-15 07:44:07 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
Nave Drallig wrote:

one thing you have to be careful of if they have missles, rockets, etc. anything like that you cant speed tank it so try and avoid most caldari ships because they are missle heavy.


Yes, I noticed. I just was hoping, after reading that missiles do less damage to fast and small targets, I'd be fast and small enough to take low enough damage so my repairer could keep up. As it turned out, I was wrong.

In hindsight I wonder if it would have worked out if I had killed his drones one after the other, warping out after each one to let the repairer do its thing.
But even if that would have been possible, theoretically, it would've been very risky and that guy could have warped away at any point after me having to warp out.


Rockets are a frig and destroyer's worst nightmare, as are drones. They are very fast and do decent damage to snall hulled ships. Now if the carebear is using heavy missiles, which they mostly do, you might find yourself still in a bind if they switch to the precision version that deals more damage than standard Rage Fury T2 heavies to frigs/destroyers.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#69 - 2012-06-15 08:15:03 UTC
Daemon Ceed wrote:

Rockets are a frig and destroyer's worst nightmare, as are drones. They are very fast and do decent damage to snall hulled ships. Now if the carebear is using heavy missiles, which they mostly do, you might find yourself still in a bind if they switch to the precision version that deals more damage than standard Rage Fury T2 heavies to frigs/destroyers.


Those are for small and medium sized hulls, right?

In my case it was a Raven with cruise missiles, which I read should do only a fraction of their damage to a fast-moving frigate. I just underestimated the damage, or it was a matter of my skills and fitting.
There were also the drones shooting at me. I honestly didn't have a mind calm enough to discern which did more damage to me, though.

Anyway, I got out alive, a little smarter, and it won't keep me from trying again.
Cetaphil Thrace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2012-06-15 14:20:14 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
Nave Drallig wrote:

one thing you have to be careful of if they have missles, rockets, etc. anything like that you cant speed tank it so try and avoid most caldari ships because they are missle heavy.


Yes, I noticed. I just was hoping, after reading that missiles do less damage to fast and small targets, I'd be fast and small enough to take low enough damage so my repairer could keep up. As it turned out, I was wrong.

In hindsight I wonder if it would have worked out if I had killed his drones one after the other, warping out after each one to let the repairer do its thing.
But even if that would have been possible, theoretically, it would've been very risky and that guy could have warped away at any point after me having to warp out.



Be aware of percision missiles, they will crush a frig, just letting you know. I have had success with torps not doing much dmg to frig. Percision hvys are made for frig or any small targets. And depending on how high the pilot trained them will be how much dmg they do. Caldari navy hvys do alot of dmg as well. A grouped set of percisions can 1 hit pop some frigs, so be careful.
Aulx-Gao Ekanon
#71 - 2012-06-15 17:41:28 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Aulx-Gao Ekanon wrote:
Serena, you are a bad, bad person and you should be punished harshly.
I volunteer to deal the punishment.
Afterward, you should go steal more stuff so that you are in need of additional punishment.



Cool

This thread is now officially full of win.....Lol

Also, will pay 1 million ISK to watch said punishment......Bear


X
This punishment is not for your amusement. Serena alone has earned it. Twisted

_Naughty by nature, wicked by choice. _
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#72 - 2012-06-16 04:45:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
A little bit ago I was warp disrupted for the first time.

By some npc ships. As I jumped into the second stage of a mission only to notice the mission runner wasn't there.
LOTS of red crosses. Tried warping out immediately but it didn't work and I panicked .. and got really lucky to notice the warp disrupting message and icon despite doing so.

Luckily I wasn't webbed.. I set a course sideways from the bulk of the big ships which were shooting at me and barely was able to get enough distance between the disrupting ships and myself to warp off before I was destroyed.
The speed penalty my brand new salvaging rigs impose on my ship didn't help much.

But salvaging is nice income, I noticed, thanks to the people above pointing that out. It feels somehow wrong I can do it in complete safety, assuming the mission runner in question doesn't want to "argue" with CONCORD, though.
Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
#73 - 2012-06-16 19:43:35 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
A little bit ago I was warp disrupted for the first time.

By some npc ships. As I jumped into the second stage of a mission only to notice the mission runner wasn't there.
LOTS of red crosses. Tried warping out immediately but it didn't work and I panicked .. and got really lucky to notice the warp disrupting message and icon despite doing so.

Luckily I wasn't webbed.. I set a course sideways from the bulk of the big ships which were shooting at me and barely was able to get enough distance between the disrupting ships and myself to warp off before I was destroyed.
The speed penalty my brand new salvaging rigs impose on my ship didn't help much.

But salvaging is nice income, I noticed, thanks to the people above pointing that out. It feels somehow wrong I can do it in complete safety, assuming the mission runner in question doesn't want to "argue" with CONCORD, though.


for actual ninja salvaging: use a vigil, take off the salvage rigs. better to take the time to train salvaging up than to slow your zippy down with those rigs.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#74 - 2012-06-18 01:56:32 UTC
Possum's Awesome wrote:

for actual ninja salvaging: use a vigil, take off the salvage rigs. better to take the time to train salvaging up than to slow your zippy down with those rigs.


QFT.

Rigs are okay if cleaning up after the fight...if bad guys are still on-grid, dump the rigs and make sure your skill is up there. Worth the time to max it out to 5 if this is going to be your new money-maker.

I'd still stick with a Catalyst, tho.

Once you get a Noctis, it all becomes moot, since you can sit back and grab the wrecks from over 60+ klicks away with the tractors.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#75 - 2012-06-18 06:34:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Possum's Awesome wrote:

for actual ninja salvaging: use a vigil, take off the salvage rigs. better to take the time to train salvaging up than to slow your zippy down with those rigs.


QFT.

Rigs are okay if cleaning up after the fight...if bad guys are still on-grid, dump the rigs and make sure your skill is up there. Worth the time to max it out to 5 if this is going to be your new money-maker.

I'd still stick with a Catalyst, tho.

Once you get a Noctis, it all becomes moot, since you can sit back and grab the wrecks from over 60+ klicks away with the tractors.


Thank you. I originally didn't notice the speed penalty on the salvaging rigs. My fault. For now I'll leave them, unless it becomes intolerable to me. Preferable would be a higher skill and tech 2 salvagers instead of rigs which make me move slower, of course, but at the moment I have to skill for other things.

I am not too sure about using a Catalyst, though. That's because I still want to loot, too, and have people shoot at me.
For that I think a fast and cheap frigate is better.

Lately I just go for the large wrecks in a mission to salvage and, if I find something valuable, loot them. Then, based on how much value I have in my cargo hold I either warp out to stash the goods in a station before going back, or I just stay and hang around a bit, looking for medium-sized wrecks and waiting whether I'll be shot at.

Or, if my .. customer .. flies a missile ship and there aren't any large wrecks/ships left and the mission seems to be done, I leave to sell or to hunt for the next customer.
Sibil Vane
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-06-18 13:46:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibil Vane
I call this carebear pvp, concord humping the concord humpees, in essence role playing as a thief. Boring ass warping around in crowded ghey high sec, with yawnfest trammel mechanics. Scanning down pvers, (that probably have aspbergers)

Personally I wouldn't touch my own mission alt loot even if I get paid to do it. Come to think of it I let my pve alt die to unsub...

EVE is too boring as is, without making a ******* hassle of clicking tiny pixels in space..for salvage or loot. ON top of that isk/hr is like shooting yourself. But i guess you got some pretty nebulae to watch to pass the time.


unless you are looting the remains of a ship that you took down by yourself.

Everyone knows that only noobs/scrubs/ are the biggest group when it comes to preying on pvers, fantasy and sci-fi based games alike. The slightly less terribads pray on the terribads and the circle jerk continues.


At least Take it to the next level.

Join or start a corp that decs high sec carebears (since you noobs like easy pickings, and causing internet space ship drama among the add/aspies pve population.

Join FW and hunt like minded pvp fitted (lol) ships.


OR go out to 0.0 or lowsex and do the pew pew dance with less hassle, where everyone is a mass murderer/thief stoned ass hat, without the rp.

GCC is homo remove it from game!!
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#77 - 2012-06-18 15:23:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
1. I have fun.
2. I risk my ship's destruction (at least I got close several times).
3. The money I make is really nice in my opinion, then again once you're playing several months there might open up ways to be more efficient. I don't care for most efficient though, as long as I have fun. See 1.
4. I am a "noob" and those that fight back are not "easy pickings" for me. In fact I didn't manage a single ship destruction so far :(
5. I usually don't have much more than 1 or 2 hours I can play without interruption, and from my, admittedly very few, trips into lowsec that doesn't seem to be enough to do anything fun there, although the exploring and the "omg I have to watch my every step"-feeling is awesome.

I guess we look at things differently.

I do plan to join a corp, though, once I've reached at least something on my own, too (unless I get too frustrated and decide to look for one earlier, hehe). Then I need to find one fitting for me. With members who don't shoot me, like some of the terrifying stories you hear suggest happens a lot, hehe.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#78 - 2012-06-19 01:32:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
Just now.. I destroyed a Megathron battleship.

Well, if you can say I destroyed it with 2.8% of all damage done by me, the rest by Sansha's Nation.

I was peacefully stealing that Megathron's pilot's stuff.. first some salvaging, then one looted wreck and he immediately shot at me! And even hit me..
My ship was almost blown away so I warped out quickly and grabbed my Catalyst.

As I came back, he had already started the second stage of his mission, and a lot of Sansha ships were shooting at him. The accelleration gate conveniently placed me 2km next to him, so I activated my warp disrupting thing on him and started shooting (Edit: well, I also started orbiting him!). But I had to stop shooting at him and start shooting his drones after about 3 or 4 salvos.

My armor started to go toward 50%.. but only one of his drones was left and he was already in half armor as we started and went down quickly. In fact, I was just destroying his 5th drone as he exploded.

I lost my Catalyst, too, because those Sansha frigs melted me. *sighs*

Then I lost two frigates trying to get some of the loot he had. Almost succeeded.. I had just fitted some tank and managed to grab some of his mega ion something weapons, but a second before warp those Sansha frigs got me again. Twice. Then I gave it up.

He'll probably buy a new ship and continue the mission and will be able to loot his stuff. Fine with me.
I got out of it with +/- 0isk, since I still had salvage and loot from before and my ships were insured.
Edit: I was wrong, I lost about 1 million isk, my Catalyst's weapons were more expensive than I remembered.

Omg, my heart didn't stop racing until after I decided to give up looting that damn wreck...
Kainso
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-06-19 04:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainso
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Possum's Awesome wrote:

for actual ninja salvaging: use a vigil, take off the salvage rigs. better to take the time to train salvaging up than to slow your zippy down with those rigs.


QFT.

Rigs are okay if cleaning up after the fight...if bad guys are still on-grid, dump the rigs and make sure your skill is up there. Worth the time to max it out to 5 if this is going to be your new money-maker.

I'd still stick with a Catalyst, tho.

Once you get a Noctis, it all becomes moot, since you can sit back and grab the wrecks from over 60+ klicks away with the tractors.


Bad advice. Stick with a Vigil. Destroyers are decent for salvaging your own missions, not ninja salvaging/looting.

Also, you can't tractor wrecks you don't own. Come on, dude.

Edit @ above post:

Very nice. It sucks that you lost some ships, but take solace in knowing that carebear lost WAY more than you.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#80 - 2012-06-19 08:14:53 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
Just now.. I destroyed a Megathron battleship.


Haha, nice job. One more carebear Mega down the pooper. Keep it up. My alt graduated from Rifters, to Ruppy's and now flies Machariels and Vindi for "fishing poles" as I like to call them. Paid for all of them off the burning carcasses of carebear battleships. That also includes a high grade slave set, too. Paid for that with just 3 days of hunting carebears. Love the Navy Mega pilots. They definitely have anger management issues and are quite quick on the trigger.