Ships & Modules

Probably for pve use, for pvp haven't tried yet because I see no real advantage considering the price tag.

If only we had Ancillary armor reps instead of that some ships active rep bonus would actually be worthy.

If you survived fine for long enough for it to adapt, you'll do better with enams.

I'm a bit confused as to how it works
on a lot of my pvp setups i use 3 eanms it seems that the 3rd is giving about 15% to all 4 resists and that the adaptive hardener would only give me 15% to 1

is my thinking correct ?

Can some explain how the adaptive actually works

thanks

It an be worthy if you're flying something like Zealot or Deimos but only if you have logistics and even then pretty sure 1 EANP+1 hole resist hardener are a better and isk wise choice

As I understand it:

The adaptive hardener is activated with 15% resists across the board. Every 10s, it updates its resists depending on the damage received in the previous 10s.

If you've suffered 1 damage type, it will increase the resist to this damage type with 1%. This 1% will come from one of the other resists. If you've suffered more than 1 damage type, it will increase 1% to the 2 most suffered damage type, and -1% to the 2 least suffered damage types. Once it starts increasing a resist, it can not lower it while active e.g. Once you start increase kinetic resist and the drake switches ammo, the kinetic resist will stay high.

Max resist to 1 damage type is 60% (the others = 0), max to 2 types is 30%/30%. Important to note, if you're hit with barrage (which is about 90% exp, 10%kin) the hardener will still go to 30/30 i.e. it doesn't balance depending on relative strengths.

If you stop the hardener and start it up, you're back at 15% across the board. Given the cycle length and the 1% change per cycle, it can take a long time to achieve max resists.

I like the idea of it but I have yet to find a use for it, it just takes too long to shift resists. In PVP you probably be dead by the time it changes. In PVE chances are your already killed the enemy by than or almost done killing them all. And in PVE you can have the luxury of knowing what dmg types your enemy will do so you can use resists accordingly than wait for it to change.

For PVP use it's no good, mostly because it reacts too slowly and partially because if you get hit by all kinds of damage types it's worse than an EANM. It's ONLY useful if you KNOW you'll get hit by 1 or 2 different damage types and even then due to its slow reaction time it'll be crappy. For that same reason it's no good in PVE either: reaction time.

Its only use is lazy missions runners who enjoy mediocre ship fits because that means they don't have switch resists between missions.

It's dead easy to fill EM hole against ganking on a tengu. Apart from that, if you're doing a mission that shifting hardener will move AWAY from your resist hole (unless you used the wrong hardeners). And in a gank you'll die before the shifting hardener has a chance to (properly) react.

EANM.

1) Reactive hardener takes over 2 minutes to fully adapt.
2) It has a bug where, if you are only taking 2 damage types, it will always adapt to 30/30 resistance, regardless of the amount of each damage type you're taking and the resists you already have. This does not happen when taking 3-4 damage types.
3) It has a bug where it will not adapt at all once it has finished adapting to one damage profile.

Not if you are die when the other guy is in hull... then you'll wish you had an EANM rather than a reactive hardener.

EANM II, at full skills, gives you 25% omni resist.
This module, after slow adaptation, gives you 30% resists to 2 damage types (and when do you take a pure damage type? only from drones and missiles, lasers, hybrids, and projectiles all deal at least 2 types - and there are some drones that deal 2 types, although they are very uncommon).

However, it is my understanding that it is not stacking penalized?