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Announcement: -WHG- Joins STPRO

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Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-09 01:00:09 UTC
Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard

Declaration of Purpose


YC 114.06.08

In accordance with the Honor Guard's policy on maintaining public diplomatic records and corporate integrity, this announcement is a public declaration of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard officially joining the State Protectorate. The purpose of this decision is to fulfill the Honor Guard's stated purpose of securing State assets and interests while removing foreign occupancy from State sovereign systems.

The Honor Guard will not participate in the capturing of established Federation sovereign systems. The Honor Guard will patrol and perform operations in Federation sovereign space as an active operation to limit the offensive capabilities of the enemies of the State.

The Honor Guard hereby declares itself in a State of Hostility against the Federal Defence Union, its partners, its affiliates and its subordinate corporations and pilots. The Honor Guard will maintain its established Rules of Engagement and Standing Operating Procedure for operations during a State of Hostility.

For the independence, security and prosperity of the State.

This Declaration of Purpose is considered to be in effect until it is publicly recanted. This Declaration of Purpose is not considered an adaptable document and is not subject to change. The related documents maintain their adaptability as stated.


~Malcolm Khross

Hoshisuuvi
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
#2 - 2012-06-09 01:37:19 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
The purpose of this decision is to fulfill the Honor Guard's stated purpose of securing State assets and interests while removing foreign occupancy from State sovereign systems.

It is a honor to serve Wiyrkomi, the State, and its people in this capacity. To my fellow Guards, hivaa saitsuo, kirjuunen.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#3 - 2012-06-09 01:40:27 UTC
It is unfortunate to see you and your ilk join the militia to contribute to this war. If the reason for doing so is to combat against the cultural dominance the Federation is trying to gain within the State, as a fair deal of capsuleers have recently began to claim, then a "war" such as this can be fought with weapons other than missiles and blasters.

Regardless, I wish you good fortune Khross-haan. I have no doubt your personal expertise combined with that of your pilots will churn out a positive record.

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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
#4 - 2012-06-09 01:45:05 UTC
Figures.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-09 01:50:08 UTC
Korsavius wrote:
It is unfortunate to see you and your ilk join the militia to contribute to this war. If the reason for doing so is to combat against the cultural dominance the Federation is trying to gain within the State, as a fair deal of capsuleers have recently began to claim, then a "war" such as this can be fought with weapons other than missiles and blasters.

Regardless, I wish you good fortune Khross-haan. I have no doubt your personal expertise combined with that of your pilots will churn out a positive record.


I completely agree that the war can be fought without missiles and blasters, and it is my hope that eventually more will realize this. However, the purpose for joining the war is actually to counter the physical occupancy of State sovereign space. As stated, we have no plans for invasion or conquest into Federal space, we are merely operating in defense and security of State sovereign territory.

While our desire is for diplomacy to secure the end to this conflict, it is important to maintain the security and stability of the territory our ancestors sacrificed for and those living within those territories.

~Malcolm Khross

Altarr Orkot
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2012-06-09 01:50:11 UTC
Fascists gonna fasc... ist... No surprises here.

Disclaimer: This message does not necessarily reflect the views of the Ishukone Corporation, its subsidiaries or associated entities.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-09 01:52:51 UTC
Altarr Orkot wrote:
Fascists gonna fasc... ist... No surprises here.

Disclaimer: This message does not necessarily reflect the views of the Ishukone Corporation, its subsidiaries or associated entities.


We've had this discussion before Orkot, you do yourself and everyone who fights alongside you a disservice by continuing to try and label us this way.

~Malcolm Khross

Altarr Orkot
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#8 - 2012-06-09 01:58:49 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
We've had this discussion before Orkot, you do yourself and everyone who fights alongside you a disservice by continuing to try and label us this way.


Try? You literally just joined the Protectorate. I don't need to try anymore.
Ilsenae Alexandros
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-06-09 02:04:22 UTC
Altarr Orkot wrote:
Malcolm Khross wrote:
We've had this discussion before Orkot, you do yourself and everyone who fights alongside you a disservice by continuing to try and label us this way.


Try? You literally just joined the Protectorate. I don't need to try anymore.


Joining the Protectorate automatically changes a person's political alignment and beliefs to fascism? Sansha ought to be taking notes.

To know the face of God is to know madness.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-06-09 02:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
Altarr Orkot wrote:
Malcolm Khross wrote:
We've had this discussion before Orkot, you do yourself and everyone who fights alongside you a disservice by continuing to try and label us this way.


Try? You literally just joined the Protectorate. I don't need to try anymore.


You're starting to sound like a number of other blind zealots that frequent these forums, Orkot. We have made our intentions in this capacity very clear. I fail to see how defending our home nation from foreign occupancy is fascist in any way. Furthermore, I fail to see how simply joining a militia force makes someone a fascist.

Please try and consider carefully that not everyone is painted with the same broad strokes.

~Malcolm Khross

Altarr Orkot
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2012-06-09 02:47:58 UTC
Ilsenae Alexandros wrote:
Joining the Protectorate automatically changes a person's political alignment and beliefs to fascism? Sansha ought to be taking notes.


Umm, what? You were clearly already highly sympathetic to the Provist cause if you joined the Protectorate, but now you get a branded pair of jackboots to wear! Stylish!

Malcolm Khross wrote:

You're starting to sound like a number of other blind zealots that frequent these forums, Orkot. We have made our intentions in this capacity very clear. I fail to see how defending our home nation from foreign occupancy is fascist in any way. Furthermore, I fail to see how simply joining a militia force makes someone a fascist.

Please try and consider carefully that not everyone is painted with the same broad strokes.


You both seem to misunderstand, you weren't somehow magically transformed when you signed the dotted line; all it did was confirm that you guys are happy to support and fight for the current regime, its fascist policies and war of aggression.

If that's what you support, then I've been advised to wish you all the best in your current and future endeavors. Please also send my warm regards to all the pilots of -WHG- . Good luck Mr. Khross.


Vikarion
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-06-09 07:12:59 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Korsavius wrote:
It is unfortunate to see you and your ilk join the militia to contribute to this war. If the reason for doing so is to combat against the cultural dominance the Federation is trying to gain within the State, as a fair deal of capsuleers have recently began to claim, then a "war" such as this can be fought with weapons other than missiles and blasters.

Regardless, I wish you good fortune Khross-haan. I have no doubt your personal expertise combined with that of your pilots will churn out a positive record.


I completely agree that the war can be fought without missiles and blasters, and it is my hope that eventually more will realize this. However, the purpose for joining the war is actually to counter the physical occupancy of State sovereign space. As stated, we have no plans for invasion or conquest into Federal space, we are merely operating in defense and security of State sovereign territory.

While our desire is for diplomacy to secure the end to this conflict, it is important to maintain the security and stability of the territory our ancestors sacrificed for and those living within those territories.


I don't think that you quite understand I-RED. Their position tends towards the support of such occupation of State space by the Federation.
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-06-09 08:08:34 UTC
It's a sad day when anyone, regardless of their reasons, decides to join any of these militias. However, as far as the reasons go I can certainly sympathize, understand, and even respect this particular sort of reasoning. There comes a point when a person can no longer sit idly by and allow a situation to grow slowly worse. That point is different for each person, and how they react after reaching it is also quite different from person to person. Truly though, the sad part is that in this situation the best course of action is still a bad course of action.

Don't mistake that sentiment though, I can hardly fault a person for feeling spurred to action even if the actions available are all less than ideal. This conflict deals a collective bad hand to everyone at the table, and the fact of the matter is that stepping away from the table and the game is much more complicated than it sounds.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-06-09 10:39:04 UTC
I see some provist boot-to-face therapy actually worked on you.
Welcome to the club, soldier.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-06-09 10:46:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I see some provist boot-to-face therapy actually worked on you.
Welcome to the club, soldier.


The Provists had nothing to do with this decision but you will believe whatever you want.

Also, I am in no club that you belong to, Kim. Your desire is not for peace and restitution but for conquest and bloodshed.

There is an old saying, "If one seeks to make peace, they must first prepare to make war." The war has been made but peace has not been pursued and the Honor Guard will serve in defense and infrastructure in order to hopefully direct the attention of the State toward peace rather than conquest.

As far as I am concerned, people such as yourself, people who openly and dogmatically pursue the conquest over the Republic and the Federation, people who pander to the war agenda of the Provists, you are the real enemies of the State and your refusal to pursue any manner of resolution to this ongoing and undesired conflict other than total conquest and Caldar supremacy is the utmost of profanity to our people.

Do not count the Honor Guard among your number, we are not and never will be.

This joining of the State Protectorate allows the Honor Guard to engage in defense of the State and its people without criminalizing ourselves to CONCORD, which would be a defiance of our own stated purposes. It is nothing more than what we have been doing already but we have removed a legal barrier.

~Malcolm Khross

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-09 11:44:22 UTC
Ah, don't try yourself as a telepathist. You can't do it as well.
But if you wanted to read my mind so badly to know what I want, I will tell you, since it's not a really big secret.
My desire is not 'conquest' or 'bloodshed', but destruction of everything that threatens our State and glorious leader Tibus Heth !!
To reach this goal I am prepared to kill. If it will be needed, I will fly with outlaws, I will fly with enemies, and even with you, I will kill innocents, I will sacrifice my ship, my crew, and even my own life. Just to destroy another threat. Just to complete another operation...

I am not asking you to make such sacrifices, you are too green for this yet. You words "Honor Guard" are just words here. The WAR itself will reveal how strong are your senses of honor and duty.

Everyone of us desires a small part of peace. In order to obtain it, we must crush two greatest threats: the Gallente Federation and the Minmatar Republic. Only through VICTORY the peace is possible. The sooner you will understand it - the better. And leave rhetoric for diplomats, they can't do anything.
You know, how long they tried to negotiate the return of Caldari Prime.
You know, how fast military operation achieved this goal.
You know what you should do.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-06-09 12:05:31 UTC
You and I fundamentally disagree on what must be done and will continue to do so.


~Malcolm Khross

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2012-06-09 12:33:05 UTC
Do not heed the voices of ignorants trying to paint you in black and white by hazardous associations and may you prove to be up to your standards in the world of the militias. I may disagree now on the usefulness and productive effect of such a decision - and I speak with experience on the matter - but at least your mind is at the right place.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-06-09 12:59:12 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Do not heed the voices of ignorants trying to paint you in black and white by hazardous associations and may you prove to be up to your standards in the world of the militias. I may disagree now on the usefulness and productive effect of such a decision - and I speak with experience on the matter - but at least your mind is at the right place.


Thank you Farel, I will strive to ensure that my actions and my words remain consistent. If this course of action proves futile or places too great a demand our corporate integrity, then we will withdraw.

~Malcolm Khross

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#20 - 2012-06-09 13:28:22 UTC
Captain Malcolm Cross, I salute you to stand up to defend the State. While I don't support Tiberius Heth, we can't allow the Federation to ocupy State systems.
The State trusts in us to defend it's citizens. They gave us our power by making us capsuleers, it's only fair to return the favor to the State by using our power to defend it.

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