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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-06-09 14:36:37 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ganking has been changed many times already, more than any other singular activity.


Not more than any other activity and only proves previous changes were badly implemented.

Quote:
We've adapted every single time, you have not.


Yes tell me how difficult and tedious it is to circumvent rules that only restrain other players play style but never yours.

Also tell us all how elite you are in null/low sec at the point you are bored like that Lol



The only rule in regard to suicide ganking is that you can't recycle alts to avoid the sec penalties. Please tell me how difficult & tedious it is to adapt to changing circumstances... Oh that's right, you'd rather be a victim.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#102 - 2012-06-09 14:50:02 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
The only rule in regard to suicide ganking is that you can't recycle alts to avoid the sec penalties.



You can, yo know it and you do it Blink

brb
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-06-09 14:56:55 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
The only rule in regard to suicide ganking is that you can't recycle alts to avoid the sec penalties.



You can, yo know it and you do it Blink


Of course. That perfectly explains why I suicide gank on this character. I must recycle it.

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Spy 21
Doomheim
#104 - 2012-06-09 15:04:10 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.


Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P.
Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?


Also "balancing" you need a purpose.
But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk?
So moving lvl 4 will do nothing.
Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps.
Just pay a tax and you are good to go.


Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve.

Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where
trading should be the main purpose.


So what system do you run your low sec level 4's in?

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Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#105 - 2012-06-09 15:08:18 UTC
"CCP making progress to a better EVE"

In my opinion they dont have concept for this game, they focus on small improvment like broken ui, missile upgarde remodelig existing ship models etc, since years CCP focus on polishing stuf in game with multiple results even bad while add more bugs in game.

Nerfing thing isn't way to improve game and this virtual world it self.
Tao Arnst
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-06-09 15:40:43 UTC
"CCP making progress to a better EVE"

ROFLMAO!!!!

Was the Title "Inferno" given to this release because its a Steaming Pile of S**t? Most people embrace GOOD change Parasites embrace BAD change ccp supports the degradation of society

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#107 - 2012-06-09 15:57:26 UTC
Tao Arnst wrote:
"CCP making progress to a better EVE"

ROFLMAO!!!!



Lol

brb
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2012-06-09 16:27:36 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
We've seen incursions get nerfed.
We've seen the drone goop nerf.
Inferno is leading up to a good hit, but the one that would knock it out of the park to making EVE a true sensation would be sending all Level 4's to Low-sec.

This would indeed make things better :)


Agreed. Make High sec a big void with stations and gates. That will fix EVE.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#109 - 2012-06-09 16:31:16 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

This.
Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
Not taking one content and taking to low sec.
Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)


It's not new content, it's called balancing.



It's called Nerfing so lazy pirates have more easy targets.....GL with that....

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alexia santiago
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-06-09 16:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: alexia santiago
Mallak Azaria wrote:
alexia santiago wrote:
Simply not going to happen because a recent offical survey issued by CCP has made clear that only 25% of players are interested in pvp.

So - call it ragequit, or call it another way - CCP is simply not cutting incomes just to please 1/4 of their player base


Because said survey was obviously completed by every single player.


No, because CCP - as any other company - makes surveys in order to know his customers opinions. And the players that did not want to spend some minutes to answer the survey will have nothing to complain about if their opinion is not taken in consideration by CCP.
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-06-09 16:38:18 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:

If they are bored, why don't they leave hisec? EVE is really exciting out there, every day.


You can't force someone to do what they don't want to do, for some is pve in low/null.
Others will claim and cry oceans of tears if you force them to pvp in low/null they'll leave, but it's only because high sec grieffing is safer for them, if you force them to only wardec of faction warfare they will also leave.

So why don't we start pushing to low/null players that already claim to luv peeveepee or force them to join faction warfare?


I didn't say anything about "forcing" someone, I asked why don't they escape boredom to the other, more interesting areas of the EVE universe.

Why you want to force people?

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
There is but you just can't understand or even try it.

Simple, start a new toon from the scratch, don't ever transfer isk or whatever, start really from the scratch. Then come back telling again you've done everything in high sec in one month and I'll tell you it's a lie.


How can you tell that I don't understand, or that I haven't tried? We all start in hisec.

I got bored in hisec sooner than my first month was over, I did trading, hauling, exploration and even a few missions and tried mining and industry. I wasn't interested in can-flipping, suicide ganking or wardec faggotry, I wanted better return for my subscription money.

Can you tell me what I missed?

You seem to paint a very polarized, black & white picture of the people you call "pvpers" and low/null. Playing there is really a lot more than just shooting each other, there's even .all the NPCing available a person can handle, just better and more exciting

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2012-06-09 16:38:23 UTC
I need l4 isk so I can PvP. Running l3s for isk is just not worthwhile. Also, someone mentioned dynamic agents where they reduce payouts and stuff? Seriously, why are you guys so worried about hisec? Hisec is fine. Run along now.

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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#113 - 2012-06-09 16:39:20 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
I need l4 isk so I can PvP. Running l3s for isk is just not worthwhile. Also, someone mentioned dynamic agents where they reduce payouts and stuff? Seriously, why are you guys so worried about hisec? Hisec is fine. Run along now.



This +1

Tal





Tao Arnst
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-06-09 16:42:16 UTC
alexia santiago wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
alexia santiago wrote:
Simply not going to happen because a recent offical survey issued by CCP has made clear that only 25% of players are interested in pvp.

So - call it ragequit, or call it another way - CCP is simply not cutting incomes just to please 1/4 of their player base


Because said survey was obviously completed by every single player.


No, because CCP - as any other company - makes surveys in order to know his customers opinions. And the players that did not want to spend some minutes to answer the survey will have nothing to complain about if their opinion is not taken in consideration by CCP.


And the players that help test and gave feedback regarding what a mess this inferno would be, were "considered"?

They are NOT listening at all apparently....

Was the Title "Inferno" given to this release because its a Steaming Pile of S**t? Most people embrace GOOD change Parasites embrace BAD change ccp supports the degradation of society

Cierejai
Biofuel Productions
#115 - 2012-06-09 16:45:14 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

This.
Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
Not taking one content and taking to low sec.
Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)


It's not new content, it's called balancing.



A lot of people run multi-billion isk ships and your mentally challenged if you think they would take them anywhere near low-sec.

What you would see is unprobable tengus flying all over low-sec so you would have to QQ about that.

>Implying you would invest that many skillpoints into a prober to find a missions runner when he is just going to warp away when he sees the probe because he is almost unprobeable.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#116 - 2012-06-09 16:45:25 UTC
alexia santiago wrote:
And the players that did not want to spend some minutes to answer the survey will have nothing to complain about if their opinion is not taken in consideration by CCP.



You mean like useless feedback and thousands of posts about hybrids rebalancing?

Or the one about CQ's awesomeness?

Wait maybe the crapventory feedback instead? -And I could continue on and on.

Yes, we're indeed used to useful feedback considerations.

brb
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#117 - 2012-06-09 17:59:54 UTC
alexia santiago wrote:
Simply not going to happen because a recent offical survey issued by CCP has made clear that only 25% of players are interested in pvp.

So - call it ragequit, or call it another way - CCP is simply not cutting incomes just to please 1/4 of their player base

You really didn't understand what you read, did you?

"what primarily attracted you to Eve..." and 25% said pvp".

Did you see the other survey (done by ccp) linked in the same thread? 75% liked pvp in the game...

Do try harder, but don't try so hard you go right out the other side into "gravely mistaken..."

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#118 - 2012-06-09 18:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Roy Mustang
D3F4ULT wrote:
We've seen incursions get nerfed.
We've seen the drone goop nerf.
Inferno is leading up to a good hit, but the one that would knock it out of the park to making EVE a true sensation would be sending all Level 4's to Low-sec.

This would indeed make things better :)


If by "better" you mean "have less people playing" then yes.

Not everyone in this game likes being a "bottom" for a 0.0 corp.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#119 - 2012-06-09 18:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

This.
Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
Not taking one content and taking to low sec.
Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)


This incorrect. Raise the ISK/hour enough to overcome the high risk in low-sec and players will flock to low-sec.

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Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#120 - 2012-06-09 18:38:44 UTC
Cierejai wrote:

A lot of people run multi-billion isk ships and your mentally challenged if you think they would take them anywhere near low-sec.

What you would see is unprobable tengus flying all over low-sec so you would have to QQ about that.

>Implying you would invest that many skillpoints into a prober to find a missions runner when he is just going to warp away when he sees the probe because he is almost unprobeable.



A lot of people lose their multi-billion isk ships every day in lowsec. Then they buy new ones and fly out again for more good fights.

Only mentally challenged people are afraid of losing ships.

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec.