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D3F4ULT
#1 - 2012-06-08 21:17:02 UTC
We've seen incursions get nerfed.
We've seen the drone goop nerf.
Inferno is leading up to a good hit, but the one that would knock it out of the park to making EVE a true sensation would be sending all Level 4's to Low-sec.

This would indeed make things better :)

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-06-08 21:18:22 UTC
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

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D3F4ULT
#3 - 2012-06-08 21:20:42 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-06-08 21:21:08 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

This.
Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
Not taking one content and taking to low sec.
Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)

Loud and clear...
D3F4ULT
#5 - 2012-06-08 21:22:18 UTC
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen

This.
Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
Not taking one content and taking to low sec.
Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)


It's not new content, it's called balancing.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-06-08 21:22:23 UTC
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-06-08 21:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Takamori Maruyama
D3F4ULT wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.


Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P.
Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?


Also "balancing" you need a purpose.
But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk?
So moving lvl 4 will do nothing.
Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps.
Just pay a tax and you are good to go.

Loud and clear...
D3F4ULT
#8 - 2012-06-08 21:23:02 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.


Learn to play, not AFK.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Price Check Aisle3
#9 - 2012-06-08 21:25:25 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Learn to play, not AFK.

You're gonna get some millage out of that one, kudos.
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Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#10 - 2012-06-08 21:27:01 UTC
No. Stop trying to impose your desire to gatecamp mission runners.

The whole gatecamping nonsense is silly anyway. Eve would be a much better game without it.
D3F4ULT
#11 - 2012-06-08 21:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: D3F4ULT
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.


Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P.
Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?


Also "balancing" you need a purpose.
But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk?
So moving lvl 4 will do nothing.
Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps.
Just pay a tax and you are good to go.


Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve.

Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-06-08 21:27:51 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.


Learn to play, not AFK.


Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK.
D3F4ULT
#13 - 2012-06-08 21:29:16 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.


Learn to play, not AFK.


Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK.


Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope?

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-06-08 21:31:34 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.


Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P.
Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?


Also "balancing" you need a purpose.
But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk?
So moving lvl 4 will do nothing.
Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps.
Just pay a tax and you are good to go.


Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve.

Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose.



And like I said previously , if you want Low sec to be given a purpose besides gate camping, you need to add actual content that makes it flow with life.
This balance will only bring unsubs and even you know it.
Unsubs= not good, we want to see the game expand.

Loud and clear...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-06-08 21:32:00 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.


Learn to play, not AFK.

Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK.

Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope?

Well at least he isn't AFKing ...

You're already better than a large number of, say, ice miners.

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D3F4ULT
#16 - 2012-06-08 21:32:32 UTC
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen


I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?

derp.


Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P.
Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?


Also "balancing" you need a purpose.
But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk?
So moving lvl 4 will do nothing.
Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps.
Just pay a tax and you are good to go.


Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve.

Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose.



And like I said previously , if you want Low sec to be given a purpose besides gate camping, you need to add actual content that makes it flow with life.
This balance will only bring unsubs and even you know it.
Unsubs= not good, we want to see the game expand.


Unsubs gets rid of all the inflated accounts and promotes a real playing experience. Sorry I want the MMO to be a sandbox, not a kiddie pool.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-06-08 21:33:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.

make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.


Learn to play, not AFK.


Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK.


Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope?


Terrible as in nobody will run L4s anymore. They will run L3s in high sec in pimped battlecruisers/t3s. Others would just do exploration in lowsec.


I don't want to "have to cope", yes, let me take my marauder into low for a mission that takes like 20 minutes and that will only pay out like 15m on average given the higher risk that i can get ganked ? Thanks,but i would rather do lowsec exploration in a speedy T3.

You've seen that L5s were moved to low, who does those nowadays ? Folks with a carrier or those in lowsec corp nearby.


You know full well(i hope) that if L4s are moved to lowsec the amount of ganking/pirating(i mean pirates that dont honor ransoms) will be sooooooooo much more profitable than mission running itself. Yes, kill even more pve content.

Stop trying to make eve enjoyable for a minority.
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-06-08 21:52:56 UTC
Never gonna happen.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#19 - 2012-06-08 21:56:52 UTC
Maybe you don't care about rage quitting over moving L4s, but I expect CCP does. It's a good thing for the game that you're no developer. They might get drunk enough to listen to you.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-06-08 21:59:16 UTC
At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec.
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