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Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-06-08 14:16:48 UTC
Because it add's insult to injury, its that simple.

Plus if your a high sec player, chances are that clone you just lost had expensive implants in it, which just makes it funny too.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#22 - 2012-06-08 14:17:21 UTC
Nothing worse than being podded, and then finding that when your corp had moved to its new area of ops, you hadn't moved your clone from the previous base 50 jumps away doh .... a truly face palming moment of realisation



Tal
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#23 - 2012-06-08 14:22:03 UTC
I actually prefer a good podding when I'm deep into low or null, it really saves me a lot of travel time and takes me right back to my next ship.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Svarek
#24 - 2012-06-08 14:23:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Svarek
Besides the actual tactical implications, I've always seen it as basically the coup de grâce of space combat - the difference between knocking your enemy to the floor and letting him scuttle away on his butt or finishing him off when Caesar gives the thumbs-down. It seems like you usually pod the important targets, the people you despise, or the people you want to make a point to. A kick in the balls, so to speak.

Whoops.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#25 - 2012-06-08 14:27:43 UTC
Killing a pod is a matter of pride with many PVP players. The kills can be huge if the pilot is wearing implants. It's very hard to capture a pod if the pod pilot knows what he's doing; you need a very fast lock time to catch a pod.

When your ship is dying you should start to spam the warp button and warp to a celestial object. That will save your pod most of the time. You can't jump through a gate or dock up at a station because of the session timer, so warp somewhere.
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#26 - 2012-06-08 14:27:52 UTC
Got podded last night - I would like to say that it was for them to achieve some sort of tactical advantage but, in this case, they were just mouth breathers growing their epeens. Whatever floats your boat. The first two things that I learned playing games with open PVP for years is:

A) if you go where you are not safe, be prepared to die.

B) NEVER cry about it - that's what they want. Tears full their lust for mayhem.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#27 - 2012-06-08 14:31:38 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Nothing worse than being podded, and then finding that when your corp had moved to its new area of ops, you hadn't moved your clone from the previous base 50 jumps away doh .... a truly face palming moment of realisation



Tal


lol I broke out a seldom used alt to move him to a different station and got bubbled on the undock.
I was like whatever, no implants, save me the time warping 3 systems over, yeah go on kill me.

then I found myself like 30 jumps away in cloud ring and not in the station I thought I reset my clone to

derp
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-06-08 14:34:10 UTC
Toroup wrote:
Got podded last night - I would like to say that it was for them to achieve some sort of tactical advantage but, in this case, they were just mouth breathers growing their epeens. Whatever floats your boat. The first two things that I learned playing games with open PVP for years is:

A) if you go where you are not safe, be prepared to die.

B) NEVER cry about it - that's what they want. Tears full their lust for mayhem.


I understand both A and B. I only have +3s so it's not a massive lose or anything. The only thing I said when I got jumped at the gate was "OOPS", no other communication. This thread itself is a learning experience, for things I hadn't thought of.
Widow Cain
#29 - 2012-06-08 14:40:47 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?


Because a pod hanging around is basically a spy.

OMG You are sooo pixel macho...
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#30 - 2012-06-08 14:48:40 UTC
You'd be surprised how many people fly in pods worth more than their ships.
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-06-08 15:01:09 UTC
Widow Cain wrote:
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?


Because a pod hanging around is basically a spy.


Hanging around sure, but the some guy you just happen upon at a gate or find in a mission/scan site?

As for the pod being worth more than the ship, you mean on the kill boards or bounty?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#32 - 2012-06-08 15:02:30 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Widow Cain wrote:
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?


Because a pod hanging around is basically a spy.


Hanging around sure, but the some guy you just happen upon at a gate or find in a mission/scan site?

As for the pod being worth more than the ship, you mean on the kill boards or bounty?


In tears, clearly.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-06-08 15:07:14 UTC
Hrmm, I don't get the whole tears thing myself, to each his own. I suppose.
darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-06-08 15:08:15 UTC
Personally I mostly pod people after failed ransom negotiations. Grabbing a pod means a chance to get some ISK out of the fight and if they don't want to pay, I pretty much have to pod them – if I didn't why would anyone ever pay up?

That, and if people are rude, for that is a clear indication of a malfunction in their clone, probably a defective implant or something...

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-06-08 15:15:50 UTC
darmwand wrote:
Personally I mostly pod people after failed ransom negotiations. Grabbing a pod means a chance to get some ISK out of the fight and if they don't want to pay, I pretty much have to pod them – if I didn't why would anyone ever pay up?

That, and if people are rude, for that is a clear indication of a malfunction in their clone, probably a defective implant or something...


I read you should never pay, because you will just be dusted anyway, in fact there was a post not long ago about a guy who accidentally over paid and was podded any way.
Skorpynekomimi
#36 - 2012-06-08 15:19:55 UTC
Tactically - Removes intel, stops them warping off and back with a new ship, and so forth.

Emotionally, it's putting the boot in after you've knocked the guy down. Kick him in the nuts, or curb-stomp him. It's also a message: Don't Come Around Here No More.

Economic PVP
darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-06-08 15:30:46 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
darmwand wrote:
Personally I mostly pod people after failed ransom negotiations. Grabbing a pod means a chance to get some ISK out of the fight and if they don't want to pay, I pretty much have to pod them – if I didn't why would anyone ever pay up?

That, and if people are rude, for that is a clear indication of a malfunction in their clone, probably a defective implant or something...


I read you should never pay, because you will just be dusted anyway, in fact there was a post not long ago about a guy who accidentally over paid and was podded any way.


It really depends. There are people that are true to their word and there are others. In my experience low-sec pirates are quite likely to let you go if you pay up since it's not easy making even just enough money to cover your ship losses as a pirate and having a good reputation kinda helps getting more ransom money. That said, I personally have only ever once been in a situation where I was asked to pay a ransom and I knew that the other guy's corp honors them so I paid up.

I'd say as a general rule, don't overthink it. If the person that is trying to ransom you seems decent and the price is reasonable, take the risk and pay up. If he seems like a griefer, sit back, relax and look forward to waking up in a brand new shiny clone Smile

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-06-08 15:33:50 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Emotionally, it's putting the boot in after you've knocked the guy down. Kick him in the nuts, or curb-stomp him. It's also a message: Don't Come Around Here No More.


That too. If I catch somebody that has been using ECM on me he typically gets my blasters in his nuts without hesitation. And then I do awful things to their corpse.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-06-08 15:34:49 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Tactically - Removes intel, stops them warping off and back with a new ship, and so forth.

Emotionally, it's putting the boot in after you've knocked the guy down. Kick him in the nuts, or curb-stomp him. It's also a message: Don't Come Around Here No More.


I've kind of figured several good reasons to pod someone thanks to you folks.

1. Gang vs Gang situation - Eliminates quick reinforcements

2. Bountys!

3. Hanging around after being destroyed - Eliminate Intel.

4. Defense - Relieving known enemies of their extra ISK

Any other circumstance I'll probably let them go. I'm not one to kick someone while they down, not that there is anything wrong with it or the people that do, It is a competitive game after all.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#40 - 2012-06-08 16:11:36 UTC
Typically it's pretty fun to kill someone in PVP, but when you get to pod them too it's like getting to kill the same guys two times.
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