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So what happened to people doing Incursions??
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Arcan Winter
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-06-08 12:36:55 UTC
Easy, I hit summer break mode....
Well, keep training queues updated as long as account is active, beside that moved 95% of PC activities to RL summer related activities. Summer time is to good to spend with a PC game.....

So after all, thanx CCP for changing incursion to such degree that almost no one run them. Have saved me lot of time:) the question is, will I return after the summer and its getting dark again and the game time have run out...
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#42 - 2012-06-08 12:46:16 UTC
Who cares where they went.

plex price is dropping, thats all that matters
Syndrea Caedrion
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-06-08 12:56:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Syndrea Caedrion wrote:
Girel wrote:
Ok is it just me our is absolutely no one doing Incursions right now?? The has been a Incursions in the next system to me for almost 3 days now and no one seems Interested in doing them anymore..... I remember before I left due to RL issues People used to do them left and right but now no ones even touching them now... CCP WTF did you do to make everyone stop doiong them???


Whole bunch of nulsec entities got upset that someone besides them was making money, and got them nerfed. How badly, I'll never know myself, but it went from a huge group thing that people did for the iskies if nothing else to people playing their solo thing again, like before the incursions were implemented. Unfortunately, I am sure that CCP isn't even close to finished to ******* with hisec players in favor of those who make stupid amounts of money for relatively low investments.


You've obviously never had to scan moons & maintain many towers at once.


Not by myself. I wager that neither has any nulsec entity either, they only have more people in their "army" than many third world nations.

Really, try not to perpetuate the bullshit cycle that has sway over the minds of the devs of this game. It's obvious that no one in CCP actually plays their game anymore, otherwise the nerfs would go in a far different manner.

They somehow managed to get every freak and creep in the universe in this one game, and then somehow managed to let them take it over, and then they somehow managed to stick us right smack in the middle.
Girel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-06-08 13:19:57 UTC
I was Just curious as to what happened to them... I used to enjoy the having to form fleets with other players to do them and having my guardian on the field repairing ships and keeping the fleet alive while the others Blasted everything. Idk I just liked the Group environment that was part of them.... There had to be more than just People complaining about making more isk then people in Nullsec but whatever guess I will find another use for my Guardian.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#45 - 2012-06-08 15:48:22 UTC
Ya Huei wrote:
Who cares where they went.

plex price is dropping, thats all that matters

agree, plex dropping, screw all incursion runners
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#46 - 2012-06-08 15:49:54 UTC
they gave it up because zombies drop beans and ammo and that's much more fun than isk and LP
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-06-08 17:15:17 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
CCP killed the only group-oriented PvE content in hi-sec which was like 1/3 of past expansion + greatly devalued their own game for majority of their customer (a.k.a "hisec-ers, we are 75%"). So most people just returned to their pre-incursion activities + probably some of them now farming easy FW LPs in gun-less frigates.


So, you're saying people weren't doing it for the groups, they were only doing it for the ISK?


How many things that are done in the game besides PvP aren't for ISK?
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-06-08 17:16:46 UTC
Zyress wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
CCP killed the only group-oriented PvE content in hi-sec which was like 1/3 of past expansion + greatly devalued their own game for majority of their customer (a.k.a "hisec-ers, we are 75%"). So most people just returned to their pre-incursion activities + probably some of them now farming easy FW LPs in gun-less frigates.


So, you're saying people weren't doing it for the groups, they were only doing it for the ISK?


How many things that are done in the game besides PvP aren't for ISK?

At the highest level of gameplay PVP is for the ISK, too.

True story.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-06-08 17:27:14 UTC
I've always enjoyed flying solo anyway, even when I was in alliances and corporations with other people the only time I flew with them was mining ops and the ocassional Pvp roam, so I never actually did an incursion. I could care less if they were in the game, but it does seem that the Nullbears were the ones pushing for the nerf, so if you want to blame someone, there's your pointer.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#50 - 2012-06-08 17:50:26 UTC
Zyress wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
CCP killed the only group-oriented PvE content in hi-sec which was like 1/3 of past expansion + greatly devalued their own game for majority of their customer (a.k.a "hisec-ers, we are 75%"). So most people just returned to their pre-incursion activities + probably some of them now farming easy FW LPs in gun-less frigates.


So, you're saying people weren't doing it for the groups, they were only doing it for the ISK?


How many things that are done in the game besides PvP aren't for ISK?


Supercap SD Timer games

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#51 - 2012-06-08 18:00:00 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
RubyPorto wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


How are scamming and theft 0 risk activities? You spend quite a lot of time on each scam/heist with no guarantee of a worthwhile payoff. That's called risk. Most larger scams also run some risk of going into the red.



lol that is risk yet you call Incursion running which actually has ship loss riskless? lololololo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc&feature=related
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-06-08 18:05:01 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


How are scamming and theft 0 risk activities? You spend quite a lot of time on each scam/heist with no guarantee of a worthwhile payoff. That's called risk. Most larger scams also run some risk of going into the red.



lol that is risk yet you call Incursion running which actually has ship loss riskless? lololololo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc&feature=related

Riskless?

Not quite.

Nearly riskless and out-of-balance with the risk/reward schedules found throughout the rest of the game?

Hell yes.
Torneach
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-06-08 18:08:25 UTC
The nerf monster came and ate all the incursion runners.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#54 - 2012-06-08 18:35:40 UTC
CCP introduces new gameplay....

People cry about new gameplay....

CCP overreacts and nerfs gameplay to the point of being worthless.....


This pretty much sums of CCP's handling of any additions to the game.


Shocked


Never did an Incursion, never felt the need to check it out, but also didn't care that other people were making isk at it. there are plenty of ways to make easy Isk in this game.
If people want to complain about easy Isk making, perhaps there is a more appropriate target......

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#55 - 2012-06-08 18:43:33 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


How are scamming and theft 0 risk activities? You spend quite a lot of time on each scam/heist with no guarantee of a worthwhile payoff. That's called risk. Most larger scams also run some risk of going into the red.



lol that is risk yet you call Incursion running which actually has ship loss riskless? lololololo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc&feature=related


I've flown in quite a few Incursion fleets. The only possible reason for people losing ships in VGs (which were the broken part) is absolute, miserable failure on both the FC and the Logi pilots part.

That's not risk inherent to the activity, it's risk caused by pilot error/idiocy.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#56 - 2012-06-08 18:48:14 UTC
That's one way to think of it.

Though if an activity is designed to be done in a group, I'd say the other players being poor at their role is part of the assumed risk. I wouldn't want to run a PUG in EVE.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#57 - 2012-06-08 18:49:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
They got fixed,people that wanted isk to drop on them en masses left,people that wanted to blitz while alt tab left,and people that can cope with the change stayed people are coming back its just better to go nullbear again so people do what require the least effort possible for maximal gain...incursions are not one of em any more...


Still nice just require effort,logistic and realization that it won't gonna rain isk again,without effort.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#58 - 2012-06-08 18:50:03 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
That's one way to think of it.

Though if an activity is designed to be done in a group, I'd say the other players being poor at their role is part of the assumed risk. I wouldn't want to run a PUG in EVE.


It's a risk that only existed in the scrub pickup fleets.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Fatbottom Girl
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-06-08 19:22:42 UTC
The community of:

*posts faction/deadspace fit BS* LFSF

was hit by CCP (wrecking shot)
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#60 - 2012-06-08 19:25:06 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
That's one way to think of it.

Though if an activity is designed to be done in a group, I'd say the other players being poor at their role is part of the assumed risk. I wouldn't want to run a PUG in EVE.


It's a risk that only existed in the scrub pickup fleets.

You're probably right.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.