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So what happened to people doing Incursions??
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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#21 - 2012-06-08 08:05:30 UTC
They are sitting in the corner tears in their Eyes, Cause Easy mode was removed.

And I'm with them Licking their Face. Yum.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-06-08 08:51:46 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
You are either meta-trolling at a level I do not understand or a J4G


J4G spy, actually. SirMolle sends his regards.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#23 - 2012-06-08 09:11:42 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Syndrea Caedrion wrote:
Girel wrote:
Ok is it just me our is absolutely no one doing Incursions right now?? The has been a Incursions in the next system to me for almost 3 days now and no one seems Interested in doing them anymore..... I remember before I left due to RL issues People used to do them left and right but now no ones even touching them now... CCP WTF did you do to make everyone stop doiong them???


Whole bunch of nulsec entities got upset that someone besides them was making money, and got them nerfed. How badly, I'll never know myself, but it went from a huge group thing that people did for the iskies if nothing else to people playing their solo thing again, like before the incursions were implemented. Unfortunately, I am sure that CCP isn't even close to finished to ******* with hisec players in favor of those who make stupid amounts of money for relatively low investments.


You've obviously never had to scan moons & maintain many towers at once.


This is now a Tech Whine thread.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#24 - 2012-06-08 09:19:50 UTC
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----hisec missions.


Trolling is prohibited.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons


What the heck is this ???

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#25 - 2012-06-08 09:21:55 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----hisec missions.


Trolling is prohibited.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons


What the heck is this ???


ISDs are getting in on the trolling usually reserved for CCPs

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#26 - 2012-06-08 09:25:36 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----hisec missions.


Trolling is prohibited.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons

What the heck is this ???

ISDs are getting in on the trolling usually reserved for CCPs

I.. well this is interesting.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-06-08 09:37:48 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done by RMTers, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these guys are back botting hisec missions.

Not sure if srs or...

Yeah, I actually thought there were always tons of L4 botters in highsec...

Not trolling but I seriously didn't know you could write bots for L4s. This IS news.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#28 - 2012-06-08 09:38:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----hisec missions.


Trolling is prohibited.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons

What the heck is this ???

ISDs are getting in on the trolling usually reserved for CCPs

I.. well this is interesting.


Since when is the claim that someone is an RMTer or botter a troll?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-06-08 09:44:42 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Nerfed past the point where anyone wanted to do them for isk anymore. CCP in a nutshell.


Well balance a-la-CCP is more like introducing useless and broken features, brake efficient and practical ones, nerf ships that work properly, nerf nerf nerf because that makes a few junky nerds happy and still solving absolutely nothing, revamp FW but still leave NPC exploit/bugs, anoms npc bugs still not completely repaired and yada yada.

Then incursion nerf because their logic about isk in the game is about the same for balance. This is why you're playing an Eve that actual is only pleasing to no brainers loving shoot stuff that can't shoot back.

Bravo, awesome stuff. /clap

brb
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#30 - 2012-06-08 10:21:33 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done by RMTers, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these guys are back botting hisec missions.

Not sure if srs or...

Yeah, I actually thought there were always tons of L4 botters in highsec...

Not trolling but I seriously didn't know you could write bots for L4s. This IS news.


From what I understand, there are even bots that operate in WH space, doing sleeper sites.

L4s and Anoms have had well known bots for -longtimes-

Wouldn't be all that surprised if there were Incursion bots.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#31 - 2012-06-08 10:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
CCP killed the only group-oriented PvE content in hi-sec which was like 1/3 of past expansion + greatly devalued their own game for majority of their customer (a.k.a "hisec-ers, we are 75%"). So most people just returned to their pre-incursion activities + probably some of them now farming easy FW LPs in gun-less frigates.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-06-08 11:19:30 UTC
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Incursions were mostly done -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----, they are basically the only people who care about ISK/hr in a game.

Now these -----Edit-----ISD Tyrozan-----hisec missions.


Trolling is prohibited.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaisons


I approve of this visible moderation

:D

Much better than a ninja post deletion

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#33 - 2012-06-08 11:29:58 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
CCP killed the only group-oriented PvE content in hi-sec which was like 1/3 of past expansion + greatly devalued their own game for majority of their customer (a.k.a "hisec-ers, we are 75%"). So most people just returned to their pre-incursion activities + probably some of them now farming easy FW LPs in gun-less frigates.


So, you're saying people weren't doing it for the groups, they were only doing it for the ISK?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-06-08 11:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: saltrock0000
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#35 - 2012-06-08 11:46:23 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


How are scamming and theft 0 risk activities? You spend quite a lot of time on each scam/heist with no guarantee of a worthwhile payoff. That's called risk. Most larger scams also run some risk of going into the red.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-06-08 11:59:50 UTC  |  Edited by: lollerwaffle
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


Incursion "community we-do-it-for-the-group-content" player spotted.

AFAIK CCP the ISK payouts rather than the gameplay itself. Since you have so much ISK, why, you could just play it for the community content, amirite? How would ISK payout nerfs affect you? I mean, surely you're not doing it for the ISK?!?
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-06-08 12:05:43 UTC
Syndrea Caedrion wrote:
Whole bunch of nulsec entities got upset that someone besides them was making money, and got them nerfed. How badly, I'll never know myself, but it went from a huge group thing that people did for the iskies if nothing else to people playing their solo thing again, like before the incursions were implemented. Unfortunately, I am sure that CCP isn't even close to finished to ******* with hisec players in favor of those who make stupid amounts of money for relatively low investments.


Look at all the nullsec comunities fleeing nullsec in doves a year ago when anomalies were nerfed to below level 4 mission income.

Oh, wait, we're not in it only for the money.
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-06-08 12:06:36 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
CCP over nerfed them, Now speaking as someone with enough ISK to fund all my accounts for over 3 years, i certainly dont have a reason/the urge to actualy even log onto the game anymore.

It is funny, CCP have totaly killed incursions. So i guess in thier eyes it was prohibited. Yet SCAMMING, stealing all 0 risk HIGH reward and quite frankly wrong and bannable in other games, is A OK to CCP. Seems very odd, very odd indeed


Incursion "community we-do-it-for-the-group-content" player spotted.



Not at all, afterall who does anything on this game for "the group" of people you dont actualy know. Null alliances arnt about the group. They are about each individual player out for himself, jsut so happens the only safe way is to be in a large group. Alliance leaders/corp CEO's dont put in so much effort for "the community/group" its to fill thier wallets.

Once flying with BoB I lost a curse in a small home defence fleet, docked got into a ship with salvager and some cargo hold to go scoop my wreck, and within the time it litteraly took me to dock adn reship, someone had not only looted but salvaged the wreck. Example - not group but self interests.

Eve is a game where everyone is out for themselfs, and yes they lie steal and fraudulently get what they want. Incursions were not the exception, but they forced and promoted teamplay.

Incursions whilst filling peoples wallets, created communitys FACT. Created content accessable to everyone and encouraged team play FACT. Did they make decent ISK yes of course, because like I stated before, who does anything not for the ISK (PVE related)

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#39 - 2012-06-08 12:14:23 UTC
The “no, don't reduce the ISK in incursions because we're not doing it for the ISK anyway” crowd got called on their (very poor) bluff, and as it turned out, they were doing it for the ISK…
saltrock0000 wrote:
Incursions whilst filling peoples wallets, created communitys FACT.
If that's a fact, then either the community created was very very tiny, or people would still be doing them.

Quote:
who does anything not for the ISK (PVE related)
Those who do it because it's fun and those who do it for the community (and those who do it to relax, and…).
Carton Mantory
Vindicate and Deliverance
#40 - 2012-06-08 12:22:48 UTC
The issue is rather simple.

Isk is the most important part of the game to all of players. Why play EVE if your not blowing up someones isk or you are making it.

You mess with isk and you change the game.

CCP should not listen to the players on the forum or some player CSM or at their annual event.


The game is just a game and CCP are in it for making real Isk .


The original idea of EVE was to have fun. If everyone could fly around in titans who cares. If the only purpose is to restrict players making isk that breaks EVE. EVE should never of been where you played or with whom you played. It was an idea of playing with others that liked the game. EVE is solo game again and makes me sad.