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Bounties on higher level Anoms?
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Threshner
#1 - 2012-06-08 04:24:56 UTC
I am curious what the average bounty is given from the patrol/haven and the sanctum/horde anomalies that are available in 0.0

I am moving to drone space and curious how fast i would be able to make back the 1.2ish bil i would be spending on a nightmare if i go that route.

Also a alternative would be using a Abaddon for patrols which runs about 400million.

NM or Abaddon fits or suggestions are welcome =D. Thanks guys
Pell's Emnity
Your Dad My Waterbed
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#2 - 2012-06-08 18:49:08 UTC
Threshner wrote:
I am curious what the average bounty is given from the patrol/haven and the sanctum/horde anomalies that are available in 0.0

I am moving to drone space and curious how fast i would be able to make back the 1.2ish bil i would be spending on a nightmare if i go that route.

Also a alternative would be using a Abaddon for patrols which runs about 400million.

NM or Abaddon fits or suggestions are welcome =D. Thanks guys


Drone anoms are actually pretty hard in subcap ships IMO,
Hordes deal about 1k omni dps, which means you have to waste more spots on tank. They are do-able in a nightmare with logi (ballisk) support however.

Patrols are another Beast, being a bit easier to tank, however the second wave spawns 8 elite frigs spread out all across the anom. Not to mention all scram and close range before the nightmare can lock them (yes, even f you came in at 100km, try it on sisi)

Drones do have an added bonus of having the lowest resists (they are even more susceptible to em than sansha) and thus have the best "therroetical" isk/hour, even if running the sites can be a bit riskey.

Hope this helps :)
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-09 05:39:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodoric Darkwind
sanctums/hordes are 1.1 and 1.2mil bounty BSes.

Drone hordes are a joke in any tech 3, I tried a horde in a serpentis fit Loki (Kin/Therm hardeners + invul) and never went below 90% shields and didn't have to touch the booster, their tracking is even worse than serpentis. Would be just as easy in a tengu (just get the scram/web frigs down fast, thankfully lokis absolutely murder frigs so they give no ***** about frigs)

In an abbadon or NM you should be able to blitz through the BSes pretty fast, just dont pop the trigger before cleaning up the small stuff (like a sanctum drone horde trigger is always the last 1.2mil bounty BS)
TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-09 08:44:29 UTC
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
sanctums/hordes are 1.1 and 1.2mil bounty BSes.

Drone hordes are a joke in any tech 3, I tried a horde in a serpentis fit Loki (Kin/Therm hardeners + invul) and never went below 90% shields and didn't have to touch the booster, their tracking is even worse than serpentis. Would be just as easy in a tengu (just get the scram/web frigs down fast, thankfully lokis absolutely murder frigs so they give no ***** about frigs)

In an abbadon or NM you should be able to blitz through the BSes pretty fast, just dont pop the trigger before cleaning up the small stuff (like a sanctum drone horde trigger is always the last 1.2mil bounty BS)



I have been living and ratting in the drone regions for over a year. I have seen the many nerfs the hordes have taken. I have ran them solo in a nightmare, mach, tengu, gila and ofcourse a carrier. They pay 30mil each on average. More if you get a sentient spawn. The trigger is not always the last bs, killing the small fry will also cause a respawn. I have run tons of these things. Fastest I have done one is in 10mins with a mare and a mach. Most people doing them in a carrier take about 20-25mins(in my corp anyway).
Threshner
#5 - 2012-06-09 17:51:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Threshner
I have thought about a t3 build currently all i can fly is a loki and a legion. My friend said he can solo hordes in a tengu but is dead if the neut tower gets him. Could a loki match the dps of a NM? I don't think a abaddon would last in a horde thinking about it the tank wouldn't hold. If im sniping at 100km with the DPS of a NM i don't really see how i would ever get hit except by the fast frigs i missed picking them off as they MWD to me.

I could start training for a loki or legion and have it full tech two and all subsystems at level 4 in about a week.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-07-16 06:18:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ReptilesBlade
TotalRapeage wrote:
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
sanctums/hordes are 1.1 and 1.2mil bounty BSes.

Drone hordes are a joke in any tech 3, I tried a horde in a serpentis fit Loki (Kin/Therm hardeners + invul) and never went below 90% shields and didn't have to touch the booster, their tracking is even worse than serpentis. Would be just as easy in a tengu (just get the scram/web frigs down fast, thankfully lokis absolutely murder frigs so they give no ***** about frigs)

In an abbadon or NM you should be able to blitz through the BSes pretty fast, just dont pop the trigger before cleaning up the small stuff (like a sanctum drone horde trigger is always the last 1.2mil bounty BS)



I have been living and ratting in the drone regions for over a year. I have seen the many nerfs the hordes have taken. I have ran them solo in a nightmare, mach, tengu, gila and ofcourse a carrier. They pay 30mil each on average. More if you get a sentient spawn. The trigger is not always the last bs, killing the small fry will also cause a respawn. I have run tons of these things. Fastest I have done one is in 10mins with a mare and a mach. Most people doing them in a carrier take about 20-25mins(in my corp anyway).


I am assuming that 30 million is just in bounties. What kind of loot and salvage do they drop now and is it worth trying to salvage?

I am considering moving out into the drone regions. Would a well skilled Drake be enough to get started out there until I can get into a Nightmare?
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#7 - 2012-07-16 10:40:51 UTC
I am doing Hordes in two shield transport domies wits sentry damage only. They have 800+ tank each (T2 fit with meta 4 cap and shield transporters) so i just sit in the anomaly release drones and after 25+/- mins fly to another Horde. I have only T1 sentries and gallente BS trained to 4.
Bibosikus
Air
#8 - 2012-07-16 13:32:40 UTC
Same, I run Hordes in a pair of RR armor Domis that have a 4-slot 320dps tank each and 3 Tech2 DDA's/ODL's. I warp in at 100km and drop 10 Curators, and finish a Horde in 15-17 minutes, getting 15-19m ticks on each char.

Horde incoming dps drops off dramatically after 70km, so your tank need only be nominal even if just sitting there. I don't even worry about triggers. You just need 800+dps to keep popping the closest rats.

And yeah, similar to other Sanctums, Hordes have two BS rat types at 1.1 and 1.2m. There are two versions of the Horde. The "bunker" version is worth about 32m and has a fairly nasty neut tower; the "single rat plus gun towers" version is worth a bit less.

No more drone poo, and salvage is meh. Most people I know in Cobalt don't bother unless there's a Sentient (faction) spawn which gives blue salvage.

Also, Hordes have one 10/10 escalation, the "outgrowth rogue drone hive", which I've been assured just isn't worth doing unless you've got a 5-6 man gang with nothing else to do.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Bibosikus
Air
#9 - 2012-07-16 13:41:20 UTC
ReptilesBlade wrote:


I am assuming that 30 million is just in bounties. What kind of loot and salvage do they drop now and is it worth trying to salvage?

I am considering moving out into the drone regions. Would a well skilled Drake be enough to get started out there until I can get into a Nightmare?


Drakes are perfectly decent for belt-ratting and running the lower-end anomalies. Passive Drake will tank a Horde, but it'll take you a long long time to complete one.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-07-16 18:06:48 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:
ReptilesBlade wrote:


I am assuming that 30 million is just in bounties. What kind of loot and salvage do they drop now and is it worth trying to salvage?

I am considering moving out into the drone regions. Would a well skilled Drake be enough to get started out there until I can get into a Nightmare?


Drakes are perfectly decent for belt-ratting and running the lower-end anomalies. Passive Drake will tank a Horde, but it'll take you a long long time to complete one.


Ok. I just wanted to know if it could be done.

I am also currently skilling up a Prophecy, should that work better than a drake because of the EM damage it can put out?

Are there any other recommended ships to use on the Caldari or Amarr side? I would consider going as high as a Navy Apoch and the Navy Scorp I already own.

I am new to this so sorry for the newb questions.
Pizza Face
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-07-24 22:38:07 UTC
Drakes can do EM damage too remember, just use EM missiles :)