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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-06-08 02:31:20 UTC
Luis Graca wrote:
EVE is only complex because you can die to PvPers other wise it would be really easy


Now to me the main problem of that survey is "Majority of EVE players have played EVE Online for more than 2 years with average account age being 3 years." because these are the next to stop playing the game and not only it's going to lack new players has we also don't know how many are alt's of these same players


It's called a Bell Curve.

Just because most players have a median average of 3 years in-game does not mean that there is no new growth.

WTF?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-06-08 02:36:53 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


The rest of that success lies in the yearly Secret Santa.


My secret Santee got a pimped out faction fit Daredevil and a T2 Vagabond for when he lost the first item in a ball of fire!

The previous year my Santee was BFM and I gave him interdictors! He turned out to be a creepy as hell and got kicked from the alliance.

Welp ok!


I was refering to the one on that outside forum. I've recieved some really strange **** the past few years & treasured all of it.


This guy is a goon guys, but not one of "The goonies"

Beware: we are also among you.


Why would you do such a thing? I was just posting here peacfully, minding my own business...

If you ask nicely I'll let you see the videos where I attempted to eat dog food.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
Luis Graca
#103 - 2012-06-08 02:38:55 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
Luis Graca wrote:
EVE is only complex because you can die to PvPers other wise it would be really easy


Now to me the main problem of that survey is "Majority of EVE players have played EVE Online for more than 2 years with average account age being 3 years." because these are the next to stop playing the game and not only it's going to lack new players has we also don't know how many are alt's of these same players


It's called a Bell Curve.

Just because most players have a median average of 3 years in-game does not mean that there is no new growth.

WTF?


Have you seeing the link?????? because if you did have saw it you will notice what i'm talking


Hint: It's the 3ª graph
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#104 - 2012-06-08 02:42:08 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Why would you do such a thing? I was just posting here peacfully, minding my own business...

If you ask nicely I'll let you see the videos where I attempted to eat dog food.


Wasn't that the thread where the guy was trying to bring his meal plan down to like cents on the dollar and was trying to find the optimum dogfood to eat?

Did you complete the mod challenge :V
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-06-08 02:43:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Luis Graca wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Luis Graca wrote:
EVE is only complex because you can die to PvPers other wise it would be really easy


Now to me the main problem of that survey is "Majority of EVE players have played EVE Online for more than 2 years with average account age being 3 years." because these are the next to stop playing the game and not only it's going to lack new players has we also don't know how many are alt's of these same players


It's called a Bell Curve.

Just because most players have a median average of 3 years in-game does not mean that there is no new growth.

WTF?


Have you seeing the link?????? because if you did have saw it you will notice what i'm talking


Hint: It's the 3ª graph

It really looks a lot like a Bell Curve to me. Possibly constrained irregularly around the median, but a Bell Curve just the same.

EDIT: Also, it's interesting that 4% of the population as of this snapshot were under 1 month old.

300k subscribers x 4% = 12000 new subs the month leading up to the snapshot.

Eve is hardly dying! Roll
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#106 - 2012-06-08 02:43:54 UTC
Luis Graca wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Luis Graca wrote:
EVE is only complex because you can die to PvPers other wise it would be really easy


Now to me the main problem of that survey is "Majority of EVE players have played EVE Online for more than 2 years with average account age being 3 years." because these are the next to stop playing the game and not only it's going to lack new players has we also don't know how many are alt's of these same players


It's called a Bell Curve.

Just because most players have a median average of 3 years in-game does not mean that there is no new growth.

WTF?


Have you seeing the link?????? because if you did have saw it you will notice what i'm talking


Hint: It's the 3ª graph


Uh... that is a bell curve and it's pretty much the standard curve you should see for any healthy game's population once it hits the multi year mark.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-06-08 02:44:52 UTC
So... Eve is a single player game which needs an Internet connect? Does this mean CCP made a better D3 10 years ago? Suck on that Blizzard...

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Luis Graca
#108 - 2012-06-08 02:45:59 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
So... Eve is a single player game which needs an Internet connect? Does this mean CCP made a better D3 10 years ago? Suck on that Blizzard...


Maybe they should change the name to EVE Offline
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#109 - 2012-06-08 02:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Why would you do such a thing? I was just posting here peacfully, minding my own business...

If you ask nicely I'll let you see the videos where I attempted to eat dog food.


Wasn't that the thread where the guy was trying to bring his meal plan down to like cents on the dollar and was trying to find the optimum dogfood to eat?

Did you complete the mod challenge :V


Yes, that thread. OP completed his challenge but was beaten to it by several people. Watching all those videos was horrifying.

I did complete it, but I don't recommend Kangaroo & Rice for the curious.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#110 - 2012-06-08 02:51:53 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:

Beware: we are also among you.


Obligitory cute cat picture.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-06-08 03:26:58 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Why would you do such a thing? I was just posting here peacfully, minding my own business...

If you ask nicely I'll let you see the videos where I attempted to eat dog food.


Wasn't that the thread where the guy was trying to bring his meal plan down to like cents on the dollar and was trying to find the optimum dogfood to eat?

Did you complete the mod challenge :V


Yes, that thread. OP completed his challenge but was beaten to it by several people. Watching all those videos was horrifying.

I did complete it, but I don't recommend Kangaroo & Rice for the curious.


How is your coat though? Shiny and full?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-06-08 03:30:31 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Why would you do such a thing? I was just posting here peacfully, minding my own business...

If you ask nicely I'll let you see the videos where I attempted to eat dog food.


Wasn't that the thread where the guy was trying to bring his meal plan down to like cents on the dollar and was trying to find the optimum dogfood to eat?

Did you complete the mod challenge :V


Yes, that thread. OP completed his challenge but was beaten to it by several people. Watching all those videos was horrifying.

I did complete it, but I don't recommend Kangaroo & Rice for the curious.


How is your coat though? Shiny and full?


Only if you're able to see past the clumps of **** & vomit.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
#113 - 2012-06-08 03:52:32 UTC
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
Meanwhile online usage is stagnant.


http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Stagnant?

Ban Bindy wrote:
CCP claims 400k subscribers and continuous growth.


Indeed they do. In fact CCP are close to breaking their all time record for subscriptions to Eve.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/05/e3-2012-ccp-says-it-wants-eve-to-be-around-in-10-20-30-years

I'll past the line that is relevant:

"We are on the cusp of breaking our all-time subscriber record right now,"

Ofc you could just ignore this because you know something that CCP don't or simply because you just don't like being wrong.







Did you even LOOK at the charts that you just linked to? Seriously. Most of the charts look like random noise but look at the all-time chart and the trend is incredibly clear: The number of players online at the same time has been steadily decreasing from a high point about two years ago. I am not seeing what you are describing. Not even close.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#114 - 2012-06-08 03:57:32 UTC
Luis Graca wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
So... Eve is a single player game which needs an Internet connect? Does this mean CCP made a better D3 10 years ago? Suck on that Blizzard...


Maybe they should change the name to EVE Offline



Why do people think solo players don't want to be surrounded by real people....we do, we just don't really want to talk to you! P Playing MMO's is kinda like going for a Sunday drive. See and bee seen, maybe wave while we're passing by.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#115 - 2012-06-08 08:37:05 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
I like how "exploration sci fi game" somehow equals entitled hisec bears

i didn't join eve for "pvp" either, that doesn't mean i support entitled carebear whining


I didn't join eve for any one thing, but that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about carebears whining

Tal


Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-06-08 08:40:47 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
I like how "exploration sci fi game" somehow equals entitled hisec bears

i didn't join eve for "pvp" either, that doesn't mean i support entitled carebear whining


I didn't join eve for any one thing, but that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about carebears whining

Tal



I joined Eve for just one thing: PVP. But that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about not supporting entitled whiny carebears.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#117 - 2012-06-08 08:49:47 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
I like how "exploration sci fi game" somehow equals entitled hisec bears

i didn't join eve for "pvp" either, that doesn't mean i support entitled carebear whining


I didn't join eve for any one thing, but that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about carebears whining

Tal



I joined Eve for just one thing: PVP. But that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about not supporting entitled whiny carebears.



I joined eve... na we could go on for ever Lol

Tal

Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2012-06-08 08:51:53 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
I like how "exploration sci fi game" somehow equals entitled hisec bears

i didn't join eve for "pvp" either, that doesn't mean i support entitled carebear whining


I didn't join eve for any one thing, but that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about carebears whining

Tal



I joined Eve for just one thing: PVP. But that doesn't mean I support entitled whining about not supporting entitled whiny carebears.


I joined eve... na we could go on for ever Lol

Tal

I am glad we agree on that, then.

Besides, this gets messy in a few more rounds! Blink
Herr Hammer Draken
#119 - 2012-06-08 09:08:20 UTC
Syndrea Caedrion wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
this is the problem with ccp direction after incarna instead of making the game better for the majority who play it they are focused on nerfing the things we like and making the game better for the minority null sec players... sad really...

this is why the CSM are bad...


I'm putting this more on CCP...sure, the CSM is going to flap their gums, but CCP is the one that institutes changes. They are clearly out of touch with what their game is and was. And the fact that a rather small group is dictating the course of the game for the majority is a very bad sign indeed. My co-worker who used to play came out and said that he'd give the game two years at most before it crashed and burned if it stays on the path it is on. I find it hard to argue with him.

I did find it amusing that PvP was in the last third of that list though, behind some pretty funny things!


Obviously CCP is already way ahead of you. They would not have put out a player survey if they believed the forums represented an honest cross section of the EVE player base. The survey was an attempt to contact that part of EVE player base that is the silent majority.

I am thinking that if CCP was interested in increasing the player base of EVE that they would use what they learned from the survey. That is not a sure thing however as the EVE server has limits. Which they have been experimenting with lately as well.
The tea leaves are on the wall if you are into reading between the lines. We might see a shift in how CCP makes changes to the game in light of all of the above.

Forum noise is just that noise. Sometimes the squeaky wheel does get the greese. In the past that was mostly how CCP operated. Perhaps things are about to change.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2012-06-08 09:14:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Syndrea Caedrion wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
this is the problem with ccp direction after incarna instead of making the game better for the majority who play it they are focused on nerfing the things we like and making the game better for the minority null sec players... sad really...

this is why the CSM are bad...


I'm putting this more on CCP...sure, the CSM is going to flap their gums, but CCP is the one that institutes changes. They are clearly out of touch with what their game is and was. And the fact that a rather small group is dictating the course of the game for the majority is a very bad sign indeed. My co-worker who used to play came out and said that he'd give the game two years at most before it crashed and burned if it stays on the path it is on. I find it hard to argue with him.

I did find it amusing that PvP was in the last third of that list though, behind some pretty funny things!


Obviously CCP is already way ahead of you. They would not have put out a player survey if they believed the forums represented an honest cross section of the EVE player base. The survey was an attempt to contact that part of EVE player base that is the silent majority.

I am thinking that if CCP was interested in increasing the player base of EVE that they would use what they learned from the survey. That is not a sure thing however as the EVE server has limits. Which they have been experimenting with lately as well.
The tea leaves are on the wall if you are into reading between the lines. We might see a shift in how CCP makes changes to the game in light of all of the above.

Forum noise is just that noise. Sometimes the squeaky wheel does get the greese. In the past that was mostly how CCP operated. Perhaps things are about to change.


Yeah, I bet CCP is just dying to cater to the magical 70% of Eve's players who don't even know that every activity they perform is in fact PVP.

I just know we're on the verge of a whole crop of new, innovative, easy-mode changes. Roll