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What would happen if goo-containing moons were shuffled monthly?
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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#161 - 2012-06-08 02:37:11 UTC
Luis Graca wrote:
If moon goo is always changing how would any alliance that what to conquer space know where to strike?

This is the best point I've seen in this thread.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#162 - 2012-06-08 02:37:19 UTC
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
ring mining will already give the ignorant simpleton the ability to mine tech himself without forcing people to go through the mind-numbing tedium of moonscanning

seriously you will never see anyone who has scanned more than 50 moons advocate anything that increases the amount of moon-scanning going on in the game



We'll see.

Perhaps if those that have scanned 50 moons don't like it, it's a good idea after all..

When the guys who are so spergy the Incursion runners and mining fleet foremen make fun of them for their incredible love of spreadsheets say something is boring and unfun for anyone, anywhere, well...

It probably is.


What is Alzion in this thread?

"GRRRR GUYS YOU NEED TO BE WITHIN .23 KILOMETERS OF THE PORT ON MY GUNS OR WE ARE NOT AT OPTIMAL ISK PER HOUR"
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2012-06-08 02:39:34 UTC
The idealistic notion, some people in this thread have, of alliances roving around fighting, Mad Max style, over tech is ludicrous.

Have fun paying 10X as much for all your T2 modules and ships, and I say this as a T2 producer.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#164 - 2012-06-08 02:41:05 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:

What is Alzion in this thread?

"GRRRR GUYS YOU NEED TO BE WITHIN .23 KILOMETERS OF THE PORT ON MY GUNS OR WE ARE NOT AT OPTIMAL ISK PER HOUR"

"Okay, whose cherry picking? I swear to god if we don't cycle this Large Cluster by downtime I WILL shut down my rorq and dock up my orca, now mine that spud roid goddamn it."
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2012-06-08 02:59:45 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:


High voltage testicular electrocution is more fun.

It can be.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#166 - 2012-06-08 03:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
I don't know why I keep finding myself surprised at the lack of effort I see on these forums. Someone comes up with an idea and because it would require fixing a separate boring/broken mechanic they want to give up.

If changing how moon mining works causes more moon probing to be done then change moon probing too be more intuitive and rewarding. Who cares how many broken things need to be fixed. Saying, "Don't change moon minerals spawn/whatever because we would have to use some boring broken mechanic." is just dumb.

Stop giving up so easy people!


Marlona, please read this post. This is what would happen with shuffling moons.


Richard Desturned wrote:
moon mineral rotation is the dumbest idea ever

there are 3,960 systems where you can mine moons and they have 171,799 moons between them

hope you enjoy 10x price spikes for every t2 hull/mod



You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now. Just like in my post, you display your all-too-easy-to-give-up will power.

And so what if there is a price spike? Ever heard of supply and demand? You act as if the same few people who do probe now, would remain the same. You will notice that some players who would not mine, because it payed crap, are out there mining because they now feel it does pay enough to warrant them spending time on that crappy game mechanic.

So no, I am not going to shoot down any idea that would better a certain game mechanic if it means CCP has to fix a dozen other crap mechanics to make the one work well. I don't care if fixing one major mechanic requires fixing one thousand other small ones, I will support the idea.

Kyle Myr wrote:
Say this after you've actually maintained a network of POS.


I may be off by a couple days, but I anchored my first POS (small Caldari) in low sec by week three of me starting my first EVE account back in 2005. I have been in charge of POS networks ranging from deathstars all the way down to small strategic towers. I will not say I know all the ins and outs of a POS, but I have experienced enough to know they are terrible. So please save your posting assumptions for someone else. You don't know me at all.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#167 - 2012-06-08 03:22:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Marlona Sky wrote:

You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now.

Since the OP didn't suggest anything about changing moon probing in his original proposition, or followup replies - his proposal was reviewed under the presumption that moon probing would remain unchanged. What about this is hard for you to grasp?
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#168 - 2012-06-08 03:23:04 UTC
So instead of the current major revamp of a mechanic that CCP is working on, you want a band-aid solution (that requires a major revamp of a mechanic that CCP isn't working on)?

Look, I don't know how to tell you this, but CCP is well, erm, how to do I put this...
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#169 - 2012-06-08 03:24:41 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:

You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now.

Since the OP didn't suggest anything about changing moon probing in his original proposition, or followup replies - his proposal was reviewed as such. What about this is hard for you to grasp?


Oh thank god one of our nominal enemies is here to argue against these idiots.

Save me person who is at least -5 to me.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#170 - 2012-06-08 03:24:48 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:

You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now.

Since the OP didn't suggest anything about changing moon probing in his original proposition, or followup replies - his proposal was reviewed as such. What about this is hard for you to grasp?

not only was it not included but our "i scanned several regions in my viator, really" friend stated explicitly it does not need to be changed

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#171 - 2012-06-08 03:28:29 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:

You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now.

Since the OP didn't suggest anything about changing moon probing in his original proposition, or followup replies - his proposal was reviewed as such. What about this is hard for you to grasp?

not only was it not included but our "i scanned several regions in my viator, really" friend stated explicitly it does not need to be changed


Is this what it's like moderating D&D? Being a mental giant amongst midgets?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#172 - 2012-06-08 03:35:58 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:

You assume moon probing would stay the same crap mechanic it is now.

Since the OP didn't suggest anything about changing moon probing in his original proposition, or followup replies - his proposal was reviewed as such. What about this is hard for you to grasp?

not only was it not included but our "i scanned several regions in my viator, really" friend stated explicitly it does not need to be changed


Is this what it's like moderating D&D? Being a mental giant amongst midgets?

Yes. Yes it is.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2012-06-08 04:16:45 UTC
Enaris Kerle wrote:

There's no such thing as negative publicity.


You shoulda mentioned this to that guy who was whining a while back about being called a cyber bully.

Who was that again? P
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#174 - 2012-06-08 04:25:11 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Bernie Nator wrote:
Why not have the deposits in a moon slowly dry up over time? Once the moon is drained, the source is moved to a different moon somewhere in the corresponding security status, but not near the same region so it'll have to be found all over again. You can just say the probe hit a different part of the moon where this resource is far more abundant than previously thought.


No, it's still a terrible idea. I think pretty much all goons would much rather have all or the majority of moon materials moved to mineable belts.

Oh, so they can use their large numbers to mine it out even faster? Fantastic idea.


NUMBERS GIVE YOU AN ADVANTAGE IN A MULTIPLAYER GAME!? THAT IS NOT FAIR!

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#175 - 2012-06-08 04:39:56 UTC
Delen Ormand wrote:
Enaris Kerle wrote:

There's no such thing as negative publicity.


You shoulda mentioned this to that guy who was whining a while back about being called a cyber bully.

Who was that again? P


somebody who matters

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration