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CCP needs to ban -5 or lower players from hi-sec

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#21 - 2012-06-07 11:52:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
evereplicant wrote:
Oh dear another noob, yes but the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS and NOT fitted for pvp!
Irrelevant. Those -5s are still free for all to shoot, and it's still up to the players to “ban“ them from highsec — whether they're noobs or not makes no difference.

There is still no need for CCP to restrict their movement.

Oh, and if Velicita is a n00b, what's so wrong about him ganking other n00bs?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#22 - 2012-06-07 11:58:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Tippia wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
Oh dear another noob, yes but the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS and NOT fitted for pvp!
Irrelevant. Those -5s are still free for all to shoot, and it's still up to the players to “ban“ them from highsec — whether they're noobs or not makes no difference.

There is still no need for CCP to restrict their movement.

Oh, and if Velicita is a n00b, what's so wrong about him ganking other n00bs?


Wait, how'd my argument of "shoot the -5 pilot" turn into "Vel is a newb-ganking n00b"?

also, FYI (@replicant)... for a very long time, the vast majority of my skills were in Industry. I should really get the last few skills to L5 and finish off that skill tree...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-06-07 12:00:28 UTC
Kohiko Sun wrote:
To prove this immunity exists, get to outlaw status and fly a faction-fit CNR through high sec. Please, record it for peer review, and, remember, it must be repeated at least three times to be considered a valid experiment.



Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

brb
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2012-06-07 12:00:32 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Wait, how'd my argument of "shoot the -5 pilot" turn into "Vel is a newb-ganking n00b"?
Because you suggested that someone shoot something, and that level of unrepentant savagery obviously indicates that you do nothing but feast on the bones of the innocent and unwary.
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-06-07 12:01:11 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.
im down with this as long as every player with 1 million sp is banned from hi-sec

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-06-07 12:02:35 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS


>Hulks
>New players

lmao

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#27 - 2012-06-07 12:04:10 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.
im down with this as long as every player with 1 million sp is banned from hi-sec


So, Gank alts only? Pirate

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#28 - 2012-06-07 12:05:13 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS


>Hulks
>New players

lmao


Newb -> New Player
n00b -> Underinformed, Oveverentitled... prick

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Velicitia
XS Tech
#29 - 2012-06-07 12:05:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Wait, how'd my argument of "shoot the -5 pilot" turn into "Vel is a newb-ganking n00b"?
Because you suggested that someone shoot something, and that level of unrepentant savagery obviously indicates that you do nothing but feast on the bones of the innocent and unwary.



well, yeah ... I've been petitioned by the Dense Veldspar a few times for griefing.

Probably not as much as Chribba though Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Kohiko Sun
Stormcrows
#30 - 2012-06-07 12:07:50 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Kohiko Sun wrote:
To prove this immunity exists, get to outlaw status and fly a faction-fit CNR through high sec. Please, record it for peer review, and, remember, it must be repeated at least three times to be considered a valid experiment.



Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

We, your peers, await the video evidence. A few smartbombs should have you flashy in seconds, so it shouldn't take long to begin the experiment that could earn someone a Space Nobel Prize.
Disdaine
#31 - 2012-06-07 12:12:41 UTC
No fair.

You just want to stop me flying my outlaw nanod discophoon through high for ***** and giggles whilst making the rage.
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#32 - 2012-06-07 12:25:58 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity.
What the hell, I put a lot of effort into grinding an alt below -5, and it doesn't get anything even resembling immunity. Why am I missing out? CCP FIX MY GAME!

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#33 - 2012-06-07 12:29:39 UTC
A -5 player is a valid target to all 40,000+ players logged on.

Yet, is apparently "immune" eh?

Sounds like that person is BEYOND elite and needs to have all manner of glory bestowed upon his shoulders for achieving this level of win.

Or, maybe, you can test whether his immunity is iron clad.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#34 - 2012-06-07 12:33:18 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Kohiko Sun wrote:
To prove this immunity exists, get to outlaw status and fly a faction-fit CNR through high sec. Please, record it for peer review, and, remember, it must be repeated at least three times to be considered a valid experiment.



Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

How many WCS stop a WDG?

Assuming you fit 1 nano and 4 stabs, what stops 5 points / 3 scrams from stopping you?

I'll let you mull over this and weigh it against why you don't see red CNRs flitting about highsec.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Velicitia
XS Tech
#35 - 2012-06-07 12:34:07 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:


Or, maybe, you can test whether his immunity is iron clad.


Antimatter, Phased Plasma, Widowmakers, or Multifrequency works well.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-06-07 12:47:47 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.
im down with this as long as every player with 1 million sp is banned from hi-sec


So, Gank alts only? Pirate
throwawaygank alts must be protected at all costs it's all a part of the NTAE (new throwaway alt experience). i love me some made up acronyms

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#37 - 2012-06-07 12:59:47 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
HVAC Repairman wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.
im down with this as long as every player with 1 million sp is banned from hi-sec


So, Gank alts only? Pirate
throwawaygank alts must be protected at all costs it's all a part of the NTAE (new throwaway alt experience). i love me some made up acronyms


But then what jucies shall they gank? Retriever's maybe? Mammoths?

(I don't know what gank-worthy ships you can actually fly sub 1m SP)

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#38 - 2012-06-07 13:08:24 UTC
If you use bots you aren't playing the game so your opinion is utterly irrelevant to the rest of us that do play the game.

And besides that, it's already been explained that your idea is rubbish even if you weren't a bot using waste of oxygen.

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-06-07 13:13:41 UTC
So many fewls want so much changed that isn't really broken. Why not just FO and play something else and let the EVE players play EVE?
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-06-07 13:14:47 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS


>Hulks
>New players

lmao


According to this old thread it takes about 30 days to train for a Hulk. A thirty day old player, I'd still consider a noob. Also, he will be in other gank target mining barges before that.

There are filthy industry corps out there that encourage players to get into a mining barge or exhumer as fast as possible. So I think many of your gank targets are still noobs in one way or another (one way being "new", the other being "clueless").