Science & Industry

A question:

How can a player /corp can be interested in dust (from an eve market/industry perspective) when the PI ressources are so badly valued in the market? I mean the ratio requested/provided is just a joke currently.

I mean why should i bother any interaction with dust players when i know the ressources there are valueless?

+ the fact that we won't produce anything related with dust :(

If , CCP does this RIGHT, the dust players will become eve players, thus direct or indirect consumers for PI goods, should skyrocket, the sales will go up and so will the price.

Cross your Fingers and hope for the best year eve has ever seen.

The "interaction" is (to my understanding) geared towards Nullsec and possibly FW. If you're a hisec-only PI person, there's no real "interaction" between you/your corp and a merc/merc corp beyond the market (assuming the Dust market will actually use new PI stuff to make weapons or some such).

If I was CCP, and I doubt the thought never crossed them, I would create incentives for DUST players to try play some EVE (and vice versa). The first thing that comes to mind would be to tie together both item-environments in a way that, for the rest of us, can be spelled out as O-P-P-O-R-T-U-N-I-T-I-E-S.

The could call it "The Power of two and a half", where the half obviously being the lesser-of-a-man Dust character. =)

How would they ship goods to and from markets? Courier Contracts?

I'm certain they will include some form of industrial activity, but probably not the same exact mechanic as PI for us.

Perhaps, using the launchpad, an EVE player can import goods that can't be produced on the planet. The Dust players can then, using their own unique manufacturing facilities, make those goods into products that EVE players can't produce on their own. It is then up to the EVE player to export the goods.

im not sure how. dont think the devs even know. theres was a recent video interview with ccp soundwave from tentonhammer saying they arent even sure how they are gonna get dust player to low/null sec planets in the first place.

I'm still curious (and haven't gotten an answer yet) as to whether we, in Eve, can attack the troop transports that bring the DUST players to the planets they're attacking. After all, fair is fair.

I can't wait to see Goonie transports for DUST going up in flames...

And at what point CAN they be attacked? Huge transports in orbit (heavy battleships)? The transport shuttles that get them to the surface (AF & Interceptors)? Since bigger attack ships and/or warp disruption are allowed in low/null, does this mean all of the DUST action will still be focused on ganking in high? Where does CONCORD get involved on the transport pilots bringing in all those troops for illegal actions against unsanctioned (non-declared) war activities?

Inquiring minds, and all that.

As for Dust being useless to indy types. Who do you think is gonna make all the crap they are exploding? Yes, when it's integrated you.

I believe the idea was to make it so that sort of thing didn't happen on the Eve side. The thinking is that a FPS player doesn't want to go through the process of waiting for his buddies to log in, waiting for the transport Eve players, waiting, waiting, waiting, and just before the action starts, and then BOOM. Transport shot down, battle lost, Dust player never even got to load the map.

I wouldn't play that game. Would you?

At release of DUST 514 there will not be any industrial connection whatsoever between EVE Online & DUST 514 and I don't think that connection will be high priority. The primary concern will obviously be to get the battle mechanics of the game working well. As DUST 514 involves control of planets and the building of bases,planetary and space defense installations, & industrial complexes PI materials will be the main 'building blocks' along with maybe drops of other new material types from drone npcs or contract/mission rewards. All ammunition will be provided for free during battle at 'collection points' for each side so ammo won't need to be manufactured at all !! Some DUST/EVE connections with PI materials have already been added to EVE for example to do with new clones for DUST mercs. I think at some point EVE pilots will be able to make weapons and ships for the DUST market but it will not happen for a while. Initially everything needed will be given and/or be available to buy with ISK and/or Aurum on the DUST 514 npc market. Amounts of Aurum needed to purchase items will be infinitesimal compared to the amounts needed to purchase one piece of clothing in EVE. I won't be surprised if at that point the Aurum prices for NEX store items are massively reduced.

I agree with Ishen Villone in that I don't think CCP have decided on the game mechanics to be used to transport DUST mercs through space to planets. But I think it highly unlikely that the War Barges, if they are implemented into the game, will be travelling through space and be open to ambush or attack at any point. I also think DUST 514 will never have an effect on nul-sec sovreignty largely because there would be such an uproar and tsunami of 'QQ' that we would never hear the end of it. The factional & racial elements within battle and skill learning will be the main emphasis I believe.