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"Obama is Making Kids Gay!"
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#41 - 2012-06-15 08:03:59 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
This thread won't last long :)

14 year olds should not be given access to microphones. They don't know enough about anything to actually comment. I did see a comment on a related video that I thought actually provided some insight into those opposed to gay marriage:

"gay marriage" is like "dry water". It just can't be.

That sums up pretty well the argument: this isn't about denial of civil rights, this is a disagreement about the boundaries of the definition of marriage. I wish people on both sides of the argument would get it through their heads that the other side isn't out to get them. Everyone involved is acting on their personal convictions, and that should be commended.


Yes, because the ones that are anti-gay are usually religious and when someone say "marriage" to them, they think of a wedding in a church. Most of the religions forbid this and they have a right to do so. They invented the rules for their own beliefs after all.

What they choose not see or understand, however, is that marriage today, with so many different cultures, religions and atheism mixed in, ceased to be a religious term and became a civil term - a legal bond between two humans. Since the laws are written by democratically elected representatives of the people (at least that's how it works on paper, right Smile), there is no reason to have a law that will discriminate same sex marriage, if you have a part of your community that wants to do that. After all, marriage today is a consensual relationship between two adults that is not affecting anyone else except themselves.

There's also an issue where many think that democracy should be a tyranny of the majority and use that to ignore the needs of the minority (in this case gay community), but that's another story.
SpaceSquirrels
#42 - 2012-06-15 12:11:44 UTC
Wasn't marriage always really about financial benefit and not anything else. Even in biblical times i'd have to guess more marriages were arranged.

But I digress now a days marriage (At least in the western world) is a legal matter, and therefore religion should not really get a say in who gets to marry who. And really what at the end of the day does it matter if a couple of short haired ladies are married down the street?

Sanctity? What Sanctity Marriage started out for financial reasons, and today we have an all time low divorce rate of.... 45% Woohoo! If anything blame women entering the work force and able to be independent more than gay marriage ******* it up. Let's face it; it's less about any real reason, and more so that people get "oogey" at the thought at a couple of dudes sword fighting in their own homes.
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