Crime & Punishment

While I dont want to sound offensive there but as said several times before, all the things that make EVE so unique (and probably a tad too harsh for people who are used to games where you ressurect with hardly a consequence) are things that shouldn't be touched.

EVE is cold and dark - it's the way it should be.
The environment is harsh, a dog eat dog universe, and getting established properly can indeed be quite the trip.

It's a good thing in my humblest of opinions, because it filters out the people early on that have no desire to deal with the 'virtual hardships' that EVE brings.

Getting canflipped is a indicator that you shouldnt be mining in cans.
Getting murdered in your missions is a sign that you shouldnt start attacking the frigs that salvage or steal your stuff.
Getting shot down in gatecamps is a signal that you should have someone scout a system for you (corpmates/alts anyone?).

Undocking in EVE is agreeing to the fact that you put your ship and potentially your pod at risk - even in highsec with the suicide ganks.

It's all part of EVE, thankfully, and it is what seperates EVE from the many other streamlined MMO's out there that are designed around the same concept.

if it causes players to flip, rage or frustrate themselves over it, this most likely isn't the most healthy game environment for said people to be in.

Love it or hate it, but definately dont change it.

EVE is a

single shard
player driven
sandbox
where PVP is everywhere.

These are all essential for making it work, and make it special. It is cold and dark and violent, thus making success so much more rewarding.

I find these posts very alarming, and honestly hope CCP does shrug them off. This is NOT a question of new players against old ones, greenhorns against bittervets. It is a question of the survival of a game we all love and spend hours of our life with.

Honestly, never thought I would say this, but go play another game if this does not suit you.

I understand where you are confused, and I can help!

Hello, Welcome to EVE. There is only one server, and it is a PvP server.

Glad I could help!

AoC was a PVP game with an option to play on a PVE server, in the beginning, new designer took over after its launcher and it went rapidly downhill ending up being another Wannabee O WoW.

It wouldnt fit for EVE to have a PVE server though, the PVE itself would get so utter boring and pointless that it would maybe have 2000 people (being generous) at first and ending with 0 players within a month.

Without PVP theres no need for missions, so if you remove PVP, why would people do missions?

Actually as a carebear I find comments that without PvP people wouldn't mission - sorry but that's complete crap. Just because you may PvE to fund PvP doesn't mean everybody does......oh and I do PvP as well in small roams but some of us actually enjoy (I know - weird) doing the non-PvP stuff.

@ OP.....if you split the content Eve would die - it would be crap.....even though I have suffered the odd gank while mining and been scanned down in a mission I think you over exagerate the extent of the difficulty. The joy of Eve is that you can do what you like to earn isk....whether that is to fund your PvP habit or just 'cos you like collecting shiny ships - who cares - as long as it works for you. I for one would unsub if there were separate servers......if I wanted PvE only then I could play.....well some other MMO or whatever....being able to jump out of a mission ship and into a PvP ship to help some corp mates being attacked is a bloody good thrill - even if you are crap at PvP.

Just embrace the game, the people who put up with the odd gank and EARN their ISK get far more out of Eve than others do imho

Jesus H. Christ. WoW is that way ---->

I suggest you go there...and stay for extent of your natural lifespan.

I'm getting really sick and tired of every nubtard that comes here expecting that EVE should be like every other game out there, and that CCP should hold everyones hand, warm up your milk bottle, and make sure you're tucked into bed with your favorite binky. Feck that! EVE is designed to be RISKY! Actions and loss have genuine consequences here. Death is means something, and as such it allows a player driven economy like ours to exist.

If you want a multi-shard, pvp optional experience then go somewhere else. We don't want you here, and I'm sure even CCP is tired of hearing you cry like pansies about it. I'm personally tired of reading all the threads from you nancy boys who can't grow a sac and figure out how to make your way through this game.

Regarding your topic of griefing I call playing. I can do anything I want as long as it falls within the EULA, and stealing your crap, scamming you, ninja salvaging your missions is just as legal as me blowing you up here in lowsec. Working as intended.

Those with a functioning pulse and more than 3 brain cells can figure out how to make ISK hand over fist while avoiding the typical situations that would cause you to get griefed, at least according to your definition. I suppose you're telling us here that that you do not fall into this category of players. I would pity you, but that would infer that I cared.

Me too. (Although I'm not sure about this "wick" business. lol)

Eve isn't like other MMOs. Who knew...

Interesting.

I've almost been playing for 2 months now and have been ganked going through low sec to pick up buy orders a few times now. Was I mad? Not really, I just told the dude to eat a bag of dicks when he tired to ransom my pod. Am I going to quit the game? No, I understand that this game has a HUGE learning curve and getting my ass handed to me every now and then is just what I need to learn from.

Anyone who quits this game because of someone flipping their can, salvaging their wrecks or getting owned in low sec is probably a loser IRL as well. I like the way EVE works, it's a pleasant change from all the other MMO's I've played.

Thanks for the concern of us "noobs" but I can handle my own...eventually. These training queue's are a *****