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What is the best non Caldari mission ship for Caldari Navy Lvl 4 missions

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Coulhorn
Raiders and Marauders
#1 - 2012-06-06 09:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Coulhorn
Hi,

What would be the best non caldari mission ship for running Lvl 4 Caldari Navy Missions,

Any help, including set ups, would be appreciated.

Cheers
Velarra
#2 - 2012-06-06 10:36:36 UTC
Machariel?
Coulhorn
Raiders and Marauders
#3 - 2012-06-06 10:37:19 UTC
Hi,

Thats what i was thinking but was not sure so thought would ask
Azara Erata
Generic Tax Shelter Conglomerate
#4 - 2012-06-06 10:48:38 UTC
Anything Winmatar is generally good for everything.

But that's just my opinion!
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-06 10:49:02 UTC
for max bounties, machariel. if you want to blitz for LP, tengu.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Coulhorn
Raiders and Marauders
#6 - 2012-06-06 10:50:37 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
for max bounties, machariel. if you want to blitz for LP, tengu.


Thank you, will no have to work out a fit, any ideas ?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-06 11:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
[Tengu, Lvl4]
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II

Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


[Machariel, lvl4 ]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

100MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Caldari navy X-Large Shield Booster

800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin II
Valkyrie II


both fits have faction damage mods because you want to kill stuff as fast as possible. if you are short on ISK, you can use T2 instead.

I should buy an Ishtar.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#8 - 2012-06-06 11:19:56 UTC
The new Shield boost thingies are absurd for carebearing.

This'll blitz as well as any Tengu. It'll hit bounties just as well.

[Machariel, Mission Mach]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination 100MN MicroWarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier <<< For the CPU. Or go AB+a better Amp

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
[Empty High slot]

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I << Because I couldn't think of anything for 50 pts
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
[Empty Rig slot]

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#9 - 2012-06-06 12:51:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Giraffe
I tried the ancillary shield booster on a Mach, but totally didn't like it, my cargohold is not big enough for the amount of charges I need to finish a regular L4. Reverted to usual x-large booster + cap booster because cap consumption per shield HP repaired of a regular booster is almost twice lower than that of ancillary booster (the effectiveness is higher).

Have you specified 400 GJ charges intentionally? I was only using 800 GJ ones.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-06-06 13:09:49 UTC
Violet Giraffe wrote:
have you specified 400 GJ charges intentionally? I was only using 800 GJ ones.


correct me if i'm wrong, but afaik there is no benefit from using 800s instead of 400s in an ancillary booster and the downside is obviously that you have less charges per m3 (and 800s are more expensive).

I should buy an Ishtar.

Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#11 - 2012-06-06 13:50:24 UTC
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#12 - 2012-06-06 13:50:52 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Violet Giraffe wrote:
have you specified 400 GJ charges intentionally? I was only using 800 GJ ones.


correct me if i'm wrong, but afaik there is no benefit from using 800s instead of 400s in an ancillary booster and the downside is obviously that you have less charges per m3 (and 800s are more expensive).


That is 100% correct.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2012-06-06 16:24:52 UTC
Jack Mayhem wrote:


This is probably the right answer. A Mach is a great ship but almost all its DPS can be jammed out. Not so much a Navy Domi, which can project over ~520 DPS with Wardens on a reasonable fit (and close to 700 with Gardes).

The linked fit, though, lacks a drone link augmentor, which I would say is a major oversight.
Velarra
#14 - 2012-06-06 19:30:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Jack Mayhem wrote:


This is probably the right answer. A Mach is a great ship but almost all its DPS can be jammed out. Not so much a Navy Domi, which can project over ~520 DPS with Wardens on a reasonable fit (and close to 700 with Gardes).

The linked fit, though, lacks a drone link augmentor, which I would say is a major oversight.


While OP very likely was referring to best performance in terms of numbers involved as a primary hull, there is the minor and for the most part inconsequential issue of ... staring at the hull for protracted periods of time. Does the OP mind the Dominix hull appearance?

edit:

Put another way, is the OP cool with gazing at a space whale for hours?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2012-06-06 21:50:30 UTC
Violet Giraffe wrote:
I tried the ancillary shield booster on a Mach, but totally didn't like it, my cargohold is not big enough for the amount of charges I need to finish a regular L4. Reverted to usual x-large booster + cap booster because cap consumption per shield HP repaired of a regular booster is almost twice lower than that of ancillary booster (the effectiveness is higher).

Have you specified 400 GJ charges intentionally? I was only using 800 GJ ones.


You should never have to run your ACSB off of your Cap. It boosts the equivalent of a Pith ~A type SB before the Amp, and you can fit 10-13 charges (400s-Navy 400s) in it. With a mach, you shouldn't need to boost more than 10 times in a room (probably won't need to reload much/at all in a mission either). So the cap consumption isn't relevant.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon