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Does the 'PvPers are Sociopaths' argument bother anyone else?

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Serena Serene
Heretic University
#221 - 2012-06-08 05:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Serena Serene
First: I admit to not having read the whole thread, just skimmed through it.

Second:
I don't know about sociopaths, but I -do- think people who act like an ass on the internet, and enjoy it, tend to be assholes in "real life" as well. Maybe they don't show it there, maybe they do, I don't know. Sometimes it's honestly kind of scary for me to see how many people can totally lose it on forums or in games.

That said, some examples:
- Ganking some innocent whatever for profit is not being an *******, it's playing the game.
- Ganking some innocent whatever without profit for fun is not being an *******, it's playing the game.
- But doing the above -repeatedly- to the same person, pursuing them, is being an ass, in my opinion.
- Doing the above as form of revenge after being gravely insulted is either good rp or punishment, to a degree.
- Insulting and talking crap after a fight, no matter the outcome, is, depending on the level of insults, something between amusing and disturbing.
- Doing the above in response to experiencing it for yourself is not something I'd do, but somehow understandable (to a degree).

Well, I'm probably starting to get boring at that point, so let me try to summarize:

There are some things that make you an ******* in my opinion, or even disturb me, most notably when you genuinely enjoy distress and unhappiness of others without being provoked by them (and even then if it reaches high enough levels like going after a person for weeks even if they've obviously learned their lesson).

Playing the game to have fun destroying other people's spaceship because you enjoy the hunt and because you can.. does not. It is this kind of game, and making even "high security" areas more dangerous by actions like this makes it more interesting to me (who, so far, is a high-sec dweller).

It does bother me when people honestly think they can diagnose others of a mental illness over the internet.
Since most of the people who say such a thing usually don't really know what it means they said, though, I don't care.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#222 - 2012-06-08 05:26:27 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
In the RW...

I am actually a very calm and collected person... although still a geek.

When people bug me at work I simple tell them, because of what you did or did not do, somebody in EVE online is going hate me today.

Does that make a sociopath? I would rather vent by blowing things up in make believe than show up at the office with a shotgun.

Funny Story... I told my co-workers the only thing keeping me from showing up at work with a Shotgun and blowing all you away is my ability to go online and shoot people. I got nervous laughter which i found extremely funny.

They pay for my internet connection.


Showing up at work with a shotgun makes one a sociopath (unless you're a cop/military and the shotgun is for "official business"). Blowing up ships in Eve doesn't, just makes you a gamer. Now, a sociopath playing Eve was already a sociopath to begin with.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#223 - 2012-06-08 05:31:09 UTC
I have a lot of anger and frustration that I have to work through, due to my current health issues. I tend to get pretty moody, depressed, and short tempered.

So when I log into a ******* game that lets me ******* shoot the **** out of a bunch of *******, I stay docked in a station and manufacture crap to sell to others.



It's very relaxing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#224 - 2012-06-08 06:01:49 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I have a lot of anger and frustration that I have to work through, due to my current health issues. I tend to get pretty moody, depressed, and short tempered.

So when I log into a ******* game that lets me ******* shoot the **** out of a bunch of *******, I stay docked in a station and manufacture crap to sell to others.

It's very relaxing.

Hm, well I guess you aren't making supercaps then :(.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#225 - 2012-06-08 15:10:48 UTC
Interesting article on sociopaths.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Acot Voth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#226 - 2012-06-08 15:14:57 UTC
All humans have 2 things in common, fighting and f***ing. It's in our nature to fight, give us an environment where we need to fight and watch how quickly even the most non violent people turn to violence. You ask are PVPers sociopaths? No, they are just human.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#227 - 2012-06-08 15:39:19 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Well, that would explain why miners get so upset when you try to teach them EVE mechanics… P
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#228 - 2012-06-08 15:40:00 UTC
Knus'lar wrote:
I see this quite a bit in the rage threads lately. From my perspective, i see a lot of carebears mud flinging, and calling anyone who ganks or does pvp a sociopath. Because apparently only a sociopath would do such a thing. But really, it just seems like a vain attempt at taking the moral high ground.

For real, do some people honestly believe people act the same in game as they do in real life?


"Someone in a video game where the main purpose is blowing up each others spaceships blew up my spaceship! THEY'RE MENTALLY UNSTABLE SOCIOPATHS!!!111"

No carebears, you are the mentally unstable
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#229 - 2012-06-08 16:50:54 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

According to that EVERYONE is a Sociopath. Lol
Betrinna Cantis
#230 - 2012-06-08 16:59:37 UTC
Everyone in this game is a "PVP'er" whether anyone likes it or not. It is a "Person vs Person" game not matter what you do. I you chat in local, you pvp by definition because you interacted with another....wait for it... ANOTHER PERSON!Shocked

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#231 - 2012-06-08 16:59:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

According to that EVERYONE is a Sociopath. Lol



To say that 4 percent of the population consists of sociopaths might be inaccurate. I have read many times that it was one percent.

I think sociopathy is more like a spectrum in the same way there is for autism or HFA/Aspergers. (That's just an observation).

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#232 - 2012-06-09 16:23:40 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Mittens was banned for 30 days for just that. His only regret was that he made a bad political move.

The only reason CCP banned him was for political reasons.


Now to go browse webMD and wikipedia to self-diagnose yourself with Aspergers.


And if you play EVE and not just the forums you can do the same considering the repetitious grind nature of it, be it PvE or PvP.
Kaijusan
Austro-Hungarian Empire
#233 - 2012-06-09 16:39:56 UTC
Its a game.

Pixels, thats all it is.

Eve is a diversion, entertainment.

Nothing you gain or lose in game is real.

So in the end, who cares.