Intergalactic Summit

Oho! Well lets see - I am enjoying this.

First off, the bulk of the peoples of New Eden can be classified as 'free' in as much as they have the right to think for themselves and make their own choices so, you are not indeed trying to explain colour to a blind man but rather trying to explain why purple is a wonderful colour to someone who thinks it looks like what my pet leaves on the floor after he has a belly ache.



Hmm, at least here you make some sense but again however, I must point out a few things - if all peoples freedoms and rights MUST be respected by the constitution you so vainly pretend to uphold then why is your own ascension to the chancery in such a cloud of blood and scandal?

Something about that doesn't seem so 'constitutional' perhaps your calls for waiting to disclose the events surrounding this event are more inclined to covering up your dirty laundry rather than for... whatever reason THAT was you added to your original statement.

You are correct, with rights comes responsibility? Most definately.
However did you see Captain Valoron mention anything about rights? Errr.. not in that section there, nope.

And why then, if your beloved federation understands these simple things so well is it a pit of foul culture and the haven of the drug dealers in the cluster, you surely can't deny the incredibly strong foot hold of the Serpentis in your little 'precious' Federation.

But I digress, I am indeed trying to discredit Valoron - I mean, that certainly was the gist of what I said wasn't it?

But the Gallente do all sorts of things that you can't do, Diana!

Like save your systems from being conquered by the Minmatar.

He absolutely did. He mentioned the right to "do as you please". I would contest that this right is not universal in its application, however. Strict checks and balances should always be imposed on the concept of "freedom", as there is arguably no possible way to implement pure freedom in a way that will make all citizens happy, even among the Gallente. But perhaps you are arguing that Cpt. Valoron did not mention responsiblities; this is true, but has the same logic behind it as a statement like "I may eat whatever I want." Technically, that means you could eat anything from a Minmatarian to a boulder, but of course you wouldn't. It goes without saying that eating "whatever you want" is not a means of quantifying your desire to eat literally anything on hand, but is a means of quantifying the desire to eat anything you like that is A) edible, and; B) available for you to eat legally. Cpt. Valoron's comments on freedom extent to this metaphor to a great extent; he mentions the right to freedom, and the responsibilities that come with that right are implicit. The entire concept of rights vs. responsibilities is axiomatic in almost all facets of culture, law and society, so I do not understand why there is a need for Cpt. Valoron to specify the responsibilities linked with the concept of freedom in a discussion that is ostensibly an advertisement for the Gallentean way, much the same as I do not understand why there would be a need for Cpt. Valoron to specify that he eats neither Minmatarians nor boulders.

If you choose to object to his opinions on the validity of his belief on rights (whatever that may be), that is acceptable, but surely you cannot contest that the provision of freedom (on the condition that one upholds certain responsibilities) is a bad thing.

Honestly, I agree with you. There are serious problems with the production and distribution of illicit substances among the Federation; however, it is worth noting that these elements exist in other areas of the cluster, and would exist within the Federation regardless of its stance on democracy and freedom. Do not think that I am attempting to justify or defend the drug culture of some elements of Gallente - far from it. I would prefer the full eradication of these illicit substances, but unfortunately the fundamental culture of Gallenteans is strongly rooted in hedonism. I do not abide by the tenets of hedonism, and I believe that there are a great many Gallenteans who have been ruined by their philosophical choice to engage in hedonistic acts, specifically those related to the aforementioned illicit substances.

I understand fully that you were attempting to discredit Cpt. Valoron, but you were attempting to do so on argumentative grounds that were shaky at best. Singling out his lack of mention of responsibilites despite having the knowledge that rights are intrinsically connected with responsibilities simply made your retort seem like a vague, childish slap at Valoron, as opposed to the knockout punch that I believe you were attempting to achieve.

I merely wanted to emphasize that in pursuit of our own freedom, we should not trample on other people's freedoms. This important standard also applies to those who have access to confidential information. If we forget this principle, it may have negative influence on people's well-being.

Mr Valoron,

I want to congratulate you in your achievement. I believe you were the only best choice of the seat and i am sure you will carry out your task with the professionalism that characterizes your intellect and moral behaviour.
As you may have noticed ( or not) we have not talked for some time now and i would feel great pleasure to talk again with a respected Gallentean leader admired both by allies and foes. I will be waiting in your channel or even send me a message if you feel to.


Take good care my friend.

I should clarify. I wish him and his corporation well! My comments are in the spirit of constructive criticism. I hope that his chairmanship is a smooth and easy one, bringing profit to the FCO and the people of the Gallente Federation.

Freedom can be frightening for those who are not used to it. When someone else has set the rules and sets the course of action, a man can only adjust himself to fit the circumstances, not the other way around.

The challenge freedom presents to its disciples is that the responsibility of your actions belongs to you only, regardless of whether your choices led to victory or defeat.

Without freedom, any appeal to ideals is empty. The choice and responsibility were not yours to begin with. Without freedom, there can be no honor, only obedience. Without alternatives, there can be no loyalty or sacrifice. Without individual choice, there can be no morality.

It is of course possible for a person to behave like an animal. However, most people don't choose to act this way. Most people want to be respected, even admired members of the community, and they constantly improve themselves, rise to higher and higher levels in skill, wisdom and sophistication as they follow their dreams. Only without restraints people can truly reach their full potential, and as a fruit of their efforts and vision is the reason, we have the jewel of a society, known as the Federation.

Perhaps a visit to Caille might be a cruel fate for someone used to a culture of shackles and chains for after having tasted the sweets of freedom, anything else will feel shallow and miserable.

While I agree with you to some extent, remember that there are degrees of freedom and freedom, when taken too far, leads to anarchy and chaos. The Federation does not have a monopoly on freedom, it does practice it to a far more extreme extent than many other cultures choose to, however.

Ms. Kim,

Please allow me to slightly amend your post in order to bring it closer into the line of thinking currently in vogue by the Caldari Providence Directorate and your no doubt glorious State Executor Tibus Heth.

After all, I would hate to dream that you of all people would ever seek to misrepresent the Caldari State and its people or that you would ever be accused of incorrect thinking by the CPD.