Intergalactic Summit

Oniseki has only stated that your Chancellor only knew about one contract that Ishukone-Raata had in place, making his previous accusations false. Under the terms of this agreement it is well within your right to withdraw, though under the circumstances it is a poor decision.

No, the reason Placid and the Intaki homeworld is in a warzone is due to the unprovoked aggression and invasion of the Federation by State Executor Tibus Heth and the regime of the Caldari Providence Directorate. A war that finds its cause so that Tibus Heth and Kaalakiota could usurp power in the CEP and provide them with the ability to dictate the direction of the State - a position Kaalakiota has attempted to fill ever since the Morning of Reasoning.

The rationale that Admiral Noir's insanity at Malkalen was a pre-emptive strike by the Federation - not backed up by the fact that no major fleet movements of FEDNAV and no violation of State territory by the Federation occurred for over a month seems to run counter to the notion that the atrocity at Malkalen by a rogue Admiral constituted an orchestrated plan of invasion of the State - and the propagandizing over the death of a great man such as Gariushi-haan were but steps for Heth and Kaalakiota to create a de facto reason to invade the Federation, retake Caldari Prime, and solidify their power over the CEP and the Caldari State.



You are correct. Even I might have considered siding with the nascent State if the Federation was led by a blind ultra-nationalist idealogue like Luc Duvailer in the Executive Office. Of course the irony these days is that it is now the Caldari State that is led by a blind ultra-nationalist idealogue like Tibus Heth and the Provist Junta of Kaalakiota, Wiyrkomi and Lai Dai he has installed in the CEP.



All people in the Federation wish for peace and pray for the day when the guns may at last fall silent. However, there is a recognition that there is absolutely no negotiating with a despot and tyrant such as State Executor Tibus Heth. A bellicose warmonger who will never stop for his appetite for the death and destruction of the Federation and our way of life is an insatiable hunger fed with hate and contempt for human life. A man who has sown the seeds of war and conflict in the killing fields of Algogille and Luminaire and who must now be made to reap the bitter harvest of blood and death in the fire and steel of Federal justice.

It is Tibus Heth and his Provist cronies on the CEP, Kaalakiota, Wiyrkomi and Lai Dai that begun the war in the delusion that the Federation was weak and broken. They doubted the Federation's will and resolve to defend itself against tyrants and would sue for peace at the first opportunity. That such vain dreams have now been disabused by the pointed bullets of the FDU some of the 'Patriots' of the State now wish to fight with pointed words and speak of peace in a war that they begun and the Federation must now finish?

That we in the Federation will simply dismiss the Caldari Navy Leviathan hovering in the skies over Luminaire, now a monument to the Provists and the tyranny of Tibus Heth, or the dark days of occupation when Federal citizens were denied their fundamental rights to vote due to the embargo on communications and freedom of information that every totalitarian regime seeks to implement? When Tibus Heth wrote the blank cheque of 'Development Rights' in Placid and elsewhere that became nothing more than reason de jure to conduct the oppression of Federal citizens by almost every State Megacorporation aside from Ishukone with the express guarantee that the status quo of State occupation would be maintained by the efforts of the Provist thugs in the State Protectorate. No, there are some things that the Federation and its people simply cannot forgive nor shall we ever forget.

As for the charge of unrestrained retaliation, it is an incorrect one. Even with all the crimes that the State under the leadership of Tibus Heth has committed against the Federation we know that ours is a Just Cause against a despot and the tyrannical regime he has imposed over the Caldari State and its people. The current war is a restricted retaliation against the true criminals in the State: State Executor Tibus Heth, the Caldari Providence Directorate, the Provist thugs in the State Protectorate and the supporters of the Provist Regime, Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi. It is a war of liberation against the despotism and fascism of Tibus Heth and a true patriotic conflict against the forces of oppression and tyranny. A distinction is made between normal Caldari citizens who wish to live their lives in peace and the supporters of Heth's regime that seek to silence them and continue unabated in their war against the Federation and its people.

I must however commend some here for seeking to distance themselves from Provists such as Diana Kim in their continued attempts at Public Relations spin on behalf of the State - true patriots all. Unfortunate it seems that it is men and women just like her who are now in control of the Caldari State.

It may have been a policy blunder on the part of past Administrations M. Khross but I believe the prevailing opinion since the end of the last conflict, aside from what was considered the vocal minority of terrorists and ultra-nationalist Caldari such as the UDI, that Caldari Prime was to remain under Federal control and the preference was to move forward instead of looking back. That what was once considered a vocal minority now appears to have been a silent majority certainly came as a surprise - even if I consider that the retaking of Caldari Prime was nothing more than political opportunism on the part of State Executor Tibus Heth despite whatever romantic rhetoric he may attach to its recapture.

Caldari Prime will always remain a tricky question, but starting a war and placing a Titan in a populated system that has its own historical importance to the Federation and the Gallente people certainly is not a constructive method if one truly seeks detente and renormalization of relations or conduct a fair and open discussion on the Caldari Prime Question.



Perhaps. Personally, the only hope I have of there ever being peace between the State and the Federation is with Ishukone Corporation and men such as M. Reppola in a position of strength in the Chief Executive Panel. Ishukone under the leadership of M. Gariushi has always proven to be a reasonable and responsible voice in the State, and I do think that M. Reppola in many respects has sought to continue that legacy. It is fortunate I think that men such as President Jacus Roden also realize this fact and are willing to open discourse and negotiation with Ishukone - despite what more Hawkish detractors in the Federation may say of it.

Again, perhaps. The distinction is so fine these days that it may as well not exist. Am I asserting that every corporate citizen of Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi agree with the CPD or their Executives? No. The fact remains that Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi represent a significant portion of the armaments and industrial sector of the Caldari State. The current war that the CPD are continuing to adovocate are to their interests - both economically and politically - to the detriment of Ishukone, SuVee, CBD, NOH and Hyasyoda who are now cut off from markets in the Federation and Republic which contrary to popular belief constitute significant investments and revenue streams which they are denied.

That such a situation makes them easy targets for takeover due to the requirement of issuing share divestments and capital raising in order to cover their losses is also to the advantage of Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi.

Monsieur Khross, I am a pragmatic enough man to know that just as there exists no such thing as permanent alliances only permanent interests there also exists no such thing as permanent enemies only permanent conflicts of interests. I harbour no hatred towards the Caldari people or the average citizen and in many respects the precepts of an egalitarian society that values honour, duty and integrity to ones fellow citizens where the only distinctions that should be made are individual talents, ability, and merit are also values that I hold dear. It is my belief that the average State citizen has no wish to continue this war for it will only lead to the kind of abhorrent violence and destruction that exists solely when two nations engage in absolute and total war.

I worked in the State as a private security contractor for over ten years, and whilst I'm not going to say I fully understand the Caldari psyche I do know they are reasonable and pragmatic enough to know that down that path will lead to nothing but unnecessary bloodshed and destruction for all involved. That men such as Tibus Heth seem determined on continuing the current war for no other reason it appears than to satisfy his own hatred is perhaps a tragedy that will only be fully realized once a flashpoint occurs that CONCORD or the CEWPA will not be able to contain and we shall have to consign generations of young men and women to the slaughter that will be Total War.

If detente with the State occurs then I will welcome it for it will at least allow the Federation to refocus its attentions to the true enemy of liberty and freedom in New Eden - the Amarr Empire. I for one have not forgotten the invasion of Ratilose or Kador's feting of the Traitor Eturrer. For a war to finally dismantle the Imperial System and the complete abolition of institutional slavery in the cluster by assisting our allies in the Republic and opening a second front along the Solitude/Genesis border against the Empire is a war that I feel needs to be fought and won at any cost by both the Federation and the Republic. That is a war I would be willing to lay down my life for - not a war against the Caldari people.

Isn't it amazing how a topic can be so raped?

Fact is, whether I-RED burns in Syndicate or not, whether they help whomever they want in Syndicate or not, and whether they leave Intaki or not, they've done for Viriette more than any known capsuleer organization did in the course of recent History, more than any other Gallente capsuleer organization did, and way more, in terms of security, than ANY other FDU or STPRO militia did. If any of you wants to do MORE than what they did, well, the constellation is open to whoever is willing... Otherwise, STFU.

Tripe

The Intaki Liberation Force have been pushing reform and economic prosperity in the constellation long before the State auctioned the system off to Ishukone. I have no doubt they will continue to do so, despite their unfortunate decision to allow IRED to requisition their security forces for some vanity project in Syndicate.

I'd also like you to note that Ishuk-Raata have a history of funding, and engaging in illegal activities in Viriette. It should've been obvious this was coming. The system has been bled dry, and now has little economic value to them. Why would they stay?

Strange, I wasn't aware IRED required ILFapproval to "allow" them to operate as they pleased. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to when IRED became a pet of the IPI?


Ah, Mr. Caman, it is always enjoyable watching an admitted operative of one of the most ruthless criminal cartels in the cluster attempt to position themselves as righteously indignant of others. Also, the system is hardly "bled dry" but then I don't expect accuracy from you. I've read your worthless rag of an excuse for a journalistic publication, so I'd only be asking for disappointment if I wanted you not to assert whatever version of reality is most convenient to attack your enemies.

However, I must thank you for providing this entertaining bit of sophistry with my morning caf.


So you readily admit that "the truth" is that a business must pursue what investments provide the most lucrative returns, yet consider one capsuleer entity shifting their focus away from Viriette to be "abandonment" and "betrayal"? It is not in any way surprising that when you launch into a pejorative-laden assault in a public medium against an organization that their interactions with you will become increasingly hostile in response.

In politics it was not at all surprising to find that when one figure made negative claims about a colleague, they would certainly find that suddenly they had a great deal more difficulty moving legislation through committees where their chosen target had influence or authority. They did not balk in confusion at this result, unless they were grossly inexperienced, that is. When you make overtly aggressive comments about others, you should be prepared for certain consequences to follow.

I have often summarized this as: freedom of speech does not shield you from consequences for choosing your words poorly.

Is there some moral duty that IRED is sworn to in regards to the Intaki people and system? They are but one affiliated subsidiary of a very multifaceted conglomerate. A significant number of active projects continue to move forward despite the change in IRED deployment and Ishukone in general remains one of the constellation's most vigorous investment partners and active employers.

I have contrasted the claims made by I-RED during the beginning of the invasion with the claims they are making now. I invite Monsieur Ambrye to study the records of the current discussion to improve his understanding of what is being said. I indeed suspected that "more lucrative returns", as he puts it, might have been behind this sudden change of heart and admitting it the way he does would probably have been a more investor friendly approach.

Monsieur Ambrye is positing that if the questions one receives are not the ones one expects, the right course of action is hostility. I disagree with this notion. One should first try to understand, what is actually being said and then consider how does it affect your bottom line. For example, someone might detect certain undercurrents behind Monsieur Ambrye's commentary but since he clearly demonstrates his sincerity and curiosity, a much better approach than hostility is help and understanding.


It is positive to see that Caldari citizens are gradually learning to appreciate freedom of speech and democracy these days. Don't forget to make these sentiments clear to your dictator, Tibus Heth as well.

However, no one except Monsieur Ambrye has been appealing to freedom of speech here because the legislations of the Federation and the State are incompatible in this regard. That is not the issue. I-RED's recent decisions will have consequences for the investors and for the people of Intaki, and unsurprisingly they are displeased because these consequences are being discussed in public. I understand that I am risking much by being vocal about my concerns but as a politician, this is the sacrifice I have chosen to make on behalf of the society and human kind.


IRED's only moral duty is their own word and the trust people have placed in them. When investors trust their ISK in the custody of a business, the performance and career prospects of the management depend on the returns they can provide for the investments. In this game, externalities such as the traditional culture or local entrepreneurship of Intaki have little weight. This is why it is better to have a democratically chosen safety umbrella watching over the economical activities and guaranteeing that everyone's interests get taken into account in a fair and just fashion.

Only those who actually LIVED in Intaki for the past two or three years is capable to make statements about its economic development and political reform. This is my case. This is not your case. If you have any doubts about this being my case and not your case, I can offer you countless proofs.

I never said ILF did nothing for Intaki. I only said I-RED has made more than anyone else, not only in terms of security (I-RED's public Virirette military reports leaves no doubt about it), but also about economic development (by beeing present in Intaki they provided an unprecedented ammount of demand for goods that could be supplied by anyone working in Viriette).

To all those of you who criticize people who actually worked for Intaki even if for a short period of time and perhaps following a different agenda: why not doing something for Viriette yourselves instead of criticizing people who actually tried? Or rather, why don't just STFU istead?


Yes, I was always doing this here without having to ask your permision and with my own credibility at stake. For a change.

And what "mistakes" of our superiors are you referring to exactly?



Apparently you seem to simply refuse to listen to what has already been stated. I-RED has not, and will not "abandon" Viriette as you continue to claim. This is been stated multiple times..I just cannot fathom why you continue to claim the opposite. Perhaps you should get your cybernetic implants checked, they may be hampering your thought processes.



Rest assured, there is no lies or misdirection amongst I-RED leadership. The Taisho is an amiable man, strict and straight-forward when he needs to be. If there was any "lies" or "misdirection" as you proclaim, I-RED would have ceased to be a formidable entity long ago.

I hope I addressed your concerns. I would say my apologies for my bluntness, but then I would be lying. I have very little patience for those who spit out ridiculous claims which have been addressed time and time again.

Needless to say, I will go back to my duties now. You may continue to speak your claims, but there is work to be done in Syndicate. Thank you.