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Well how about NOOOOO.

Living in W-space nets you way more ISK than living in normal 0.0
Risk vs. reward, have you ever heard about that in EVE?

So if you want to live in W-space you have to live from a POS deal with it.

How about yes. Living in a POS is not the issue of risk, it is the issue of functionality. POSs adequately abbreviates what it is like to live out of one, a Piece of ****.

Having a small outpost or specialized/better/new POS Arrays does not negate the risk vs reward - This is purely to enhance the gameplay in wormhole space.

If you have a POS with upgraded/better/new arrays or a smaller version of an outpost(or even normal sized ones) does not tinker with risk vs reward a bit. Both can be destroyed/taken over. Please post when you actually have something worth posting.

To the ladder poster, if CCP publically announced they are going to rework them, then let them take this into consideration and think about wormhole life not *just* from a corp/alliance perspective(as I said before they seem to be mainly for corp/alliance industry) but from the perspective of a member of a corporation/alliance. Giving them their own personal spaces for ships/items without making POS's undefendable because of power/cpu requirements.

How about extra large towers?

Oh I know what you are going to say - So someone can put up an even bigger dickstar or deathstar around a jumpbridge/cyno jammer or whatever else. Well how about up the power/cpu requirements of those modules then so that these setups are not possible on large towers anymore and null SOV holders are forced to use these extra large towers instead of normal large towers.

Somethings gotta give on this. Not everyone is comfortable having all their stuff stuffed into a tab where others can access it and not everyone wants their ships accessible to everyone.

POSs are inadequate for wormhole life. If CCP is doing something about POSs in general or looking at wormholes in general, this would be a good place to start.

Upgrading the POS... CCP is doing that already...

Allow Outposts or Sovereignty in W-Space... absolutely NOT... If you do, within a few months people will turn W-Space into impenetrable fortresses backed up by supercaps, etc, etc, etc.

Transfering some of the Outpost functionality (repackaging items, swapping subsystems) to a POS... that's reasonable. Personal space within a POS.... maybe... I'll have to think on that.

Wormholes are not, were never intended to be, and probably never should be "easy" to live in.

I agree on the POS revamp, but as many people already noticed it is currently one of the top priorities of CSM and CCP.

As such we dont need to voice it more that it needs to be changed - everyone knows that. What we could possibly do is suggest a possible way of what could be implemented in the POS system.


About sovereignty and outposts - i am definitively against first and prefer to see POS reiterated to work as substitute for second.

For the OP i would suggest reading up on summit updates/fanfest videos - they should answer most of your questions.

Not asking it to be easy, asking for a broken system to be fixed.

I'm merely putting suggestions on the table and all I get are troll posts. Contribute or gtfo. If CCP and CSM are trying to fix this and it is such a top priority then I am certainly sure they are willing to consider and look at ideas on the subject to *HELP* develop fixes and things that the community would like to see versus having to pull something out of their asses and *HOPE* that it works or will be received well by the community.

That being said, if you can't contribute then stfu.

I've seen lots of posts suggesting that POSs need a fix and these are some of the fixes that could help. New arrays for POSs specifically driven for wormhole space living.

So here is an idea, wormhole only modules. Modules that are adapted specifically for wormhole living. In normal K Space you won't really need some of these modules. Possibly even special towers for Wormhole space. Increased CPU/Powergrid and possibly larger fuel bays are something I can think of just for new towers in Wormhole space. If you intend to live in a wormhole frequent logistics runs are not always possible while you run ops and other stuff, and if you are living on the frontier should you really have to be bothered to exit into K Space once a week or once a month anyways just to interact with the rest of the universe?

Destructible outposts could be a solution if it is too much to ask for newer and updated POS arrays or towers. I would suggest that if we go the outpost route that it be a special wormhole outpost. Smaller in size than normal outposts, lesser hitpoints but including reinforcement modes just like POSs and Outposts. There would be no market, no bounty offices, no LP store, etc. Just able to do corp hangars, personal hangars, dock, repair/refit, CQ, contracts(sometimes it is useful to send a contract instead of trade/dropping in hangars etc, and it should cost at more than a fully decked out large POS but less than a normal null sec outpost to anchor/build.

If we go the POS route then we definitely need to have new arrays for them. I think the arrays speak for themselves in what we need and want. And I really like the idea of a ''Dry Dock'' for capital ships. The capitals not technically being hidden just in an ''anchored'' state as said before. They would be visibly attached to the dry dock array and would stay there. If for whatever reason the tower goes down capable pilots could potentially steal the capital ships intact and pilot them away, or shoot and destroy them individually and the pos dry dock array itself.

With new pos modules I think there will have to be some revamping of the towers though, we're adding more than corp specific modules here to towers, or do we have to put up 5 towers for all of this stuff? The corp has to have personal space(which is already addressed in corp hangar arrays and ship maint arrays) just as much as individual corp members do.

Ohhh I spend time lived out of a POS or two in my time and yes its no fun, but it was a chose to do, so no I will not **** off.... In all honesty

EVE is not an easy theam park game its a hardcore sandbox. If you dont like living out of a POS move out of W-space.
In EVE you chose and you chose to make a lot of ISK in W-space, well then you also chose to live out of a POS. EVE have no easy mode... Deal with it son

I' e lived in w-space and yes living in a POS sucks fat monkey ****. However doing Whs is ment for a corp or a alliance not for 1 person( it can be done with one person but it's hard) It never affected me to put my ship in the hanger because I trusted my corp mates not to steel my ****. Now if corp hanges where ment for people to have there own little space then ccp would have made it that way to start with thats why it's called CORP HANGER
SOV in WHS is a no go.
Outposts is a no go as well.

If you want your own hanger then stay in k-space or goto 0.0 and make a outpost

Dealing with ******, massively outdated mechanics is not "risk" though. It's just dealing with ****** mechanics. Give us a way to change subsystems and better pos roles/management. These are not new ideas, but they're desperately needed by everyone who uses a POS.

With POS becoming modular **Hopefully** it will improve the life living out of a worm hole. I totally agree currently it sucks trying to manage a POS to live out of in w-space. Hopefully CCP takes some pointers from the modular POS system.

I totally agree, that there needs to be some form of Personal Storage set up for POS, it does not have to be comfortable, to live out a pos, you might not be able to 'dock' like a station, but having something that would allow, Repackaging of items, and Personal Storage Space would Improve the current system 100% fold.

Being Able to Claim Sov in WH, I really cannot support, nor could I support Stations in WH space.

I could support an X-Large POS that is only deploy able in WH space That can be destroyed. That acts similar to a station concept is a good idea.

Logistics in and Out of a Worm hole is a big enough pain in the ass as it is. Having a spot to safely Store Personal Assets would be a huge improvement. and Totally Supported.