EVE General Discussion

Nat, we're not talking about the model-to-model proportions.
They're correct, as far as I can tell.

What everybody is talking about is, essentially, the texture scaling - if you look at a frigate while you're flying it, and then look at a capital when you're flying it, chances are that they're going to look around the same size, simply by merit of the texture (window size, greebles, etc...).

Larger ships kind of need larger-res textures and smaller details to make them actually seem big, while shuttles don't really need lines of lights along the side that make them look a couple hundred meters long.



I agree with most of this as well.
I'm still flip-flopping on which ship line to fly this time around, as most of them really annoy me, and I don't know which I can see myself flying without going insane (though, to be honest, this game has helped me take steps away from my love of symmetry... Mechwarrior helped previously).

Actually, ships would have to be symmetrical in some respects in space.
You would have to take centers of mass and engine placement or strength into account.
You can estimate the latter. if appearances aren't deceiving (low thrust - low glow, high thrust - high glow, etc).

It's perfectly plausible that you could have an asymmetric - structurally speaking - ship in space... and you seem to be alluding to this, Nat. But, in my opinion, many of the ships in Eve go beyond this to the point of making you wonder if there's any way they could ever buzz about as they do, being as unbalanced as they are.

Well for the way an Orca looks I see no way for it to hold a hulk. Unless it is using some sort of quantum physics to shrink the ship three is no place it can physically fit in an Orca. Maybe CCP needs to makethe ORca model a bit bigger and the Hulk a bit smaller.

Hey now, speak for yourself. I think those asymmetrical ships look awesome, and I like to think of myself as human...

Want to talk fugly ships, look at the Crucifier. That is a fugly ship.

Start with the stations first. Try and calculate how big Jita 4-4 needs to be

Most have probably seen this but for those that haven't... EVE Ship Comparison (Amarr)

and the Gallente edition.

It all went out the window when they made the Zephyr. There is honest and truly no place to even link in a capsule.

Park a Megathron next to a Thanatos, then tell me you can fit two of those Megathrons INSIDE the Thanatos.

No, ship sizes are totally borked.

They can't make smaller windows on bigger hulls because the resolution of the texture is on all ships the same.
Make them smaller on bigger ships -> you can't really see them anymore.
Make them bigger on smaller ships -> not with the current texture resolution, you'd expect detail that isn't there.



This is absolutely correct. And I want to add another thought: How do some ships magically turn in EVE?

You'd need side thrusters for a 90° turn.
I have nothing against asymmetry but some ships just don't look believable.


Anyway, what bothers me the most is the proportions of the turret size to the ship and the wacky turret placement.
It looks like the design of the ship is done before you'd even know its stats and exact turret amount, with margins for navy and T2 versions.

I adress this here.
Its not exactly a new idea, but as they are reworking some models right now I figured to propose the idea of a complete overhaul over the years, because as it is now they are only fixing it up. Maybe they will consider changing some 'odd' ship designs to a bit less odd ones. With some ideas I could improve my proposal.