EVE General Discussion

Oh man.
Why are you wasting your time with this?

The ex-goon (or not ex-goon) lead dev will be at the Vegas convention that is NOT a goon event. (The fact that 2 of the 7 links on the main page for that point to the the goon leader's blog and to the goonswarm main page is purely co-incidental).

At that "convention", I am sure the percentage that L4 missions bounties and payouts will be reduced will be sorted out.
The damage the null sec zealots do in-game to high sec is a trifle compared to the damage the null sec zealots within CCP do to high sec.

If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?

It's only fair.

I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining.

Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth.

It's a ratting Tengu. I PVP in other stuff.

you know, maybe i should just get everyone i know who plays this to let their accounts slip and just troll the threads waiting for eve to give in and go f2p so i can come back and join all the tards still on here.

While we're at it why don't we just start ganking everything in game? until the only people that are left are the ones who wanna go blow each other up? why not just take out missions and roids and just give everyone whatever ships and fittings they want?

As my previous post states, the lead dev does far more griefing of high sec that these clowns can hope to muster.
But, that being said, and as much as I hate these pricks, the economics of what is being proposed is sound.

IF, and it is a big IF, a crew of sociopaths can organize, they can be very effective in shutting down a busy mission hub.

Some math:

1 scanning alt required, maybe 4-5 Tornado's.

Alt scans down a ship.
Waits for a couple minutes, until potential target is under full aggro in say, a 0.6 system.
4 Tornado's warp in.

Target has about 6 seconds to GTFO of the mission, and is toast if scarmmed.
4 Tornado's unleash about 40,000 alpha with a large sig radius. A speed tanking Tengu will mitigate most of this, but a near stationary Rattlesnake, or shield tanked Nightmare? Nope. They take full damage.

Now, remember, the target is under full attack from the rats, so may be operating near full rep capacity.
The first alpha from the Tornado's won't put him down.
The 2nd alpha, which the gankers WILL get off in 0.6 space, will indeed blow up the target.

Now sociopaths whip out of mission in their pods and grab mission ships to acquire aggro while the alt in the scout ship grabs a Noctis and salvages 4 Tornado's plus a faction fitted mission ship.

I would guess that the average mission BS has about 1 billion of mods on it.
If half drop, that is 500M.

Suicide Tornados go for about 100M.

If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M.
A 95% efficiency.

Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops.

Depends on the game. In WoW there are a few "Goon Squads" that are barely known to the greater community save for whacky hijinks. Most of the people that really freak out about us are Eve players and Second Life players. Eve players are well, special in how heavy they freak out, and most people in second life are furries. Need I say more?

In TSW I don't think anyone cares about the Goonimati. The world of Tanks clan has been chugging around forever. The draGoons are a respected part of the M&B community (Line battles are fun!).

So yeah really it's just Eve and Secondlife.

In Eve we're just doing what a thousand other pirate corps are doing daily on a larger scale. In Second Life... well furries lol.

Maybe. I can see slow-moving afk'ers like a domi or rattlesnake falling to this, since they are probably watching youtube in a browser window and not exactly expecting anything that didn't happen the first 2000 times they did this mission. These probably aren't going to drop many faction mods, if any. Many probably won't even have T2 mods, since level 4's can be done without a lot of training if you go with a drone boat.

As you said though, the Tengus which are supposedly the reason for the event, are not going to be sitting still... they will be 100km from the warp in point, going pretty fast, and will likely warp out as soon as you show up on grid and long before you can lock and fire a shot.

Maybe you will get a lazy or scrammed tengu, but most people flying a Tengu are either ready for a fight, or super paranoid and ready to run at the first hint of conflict anyway.

But, let's see where this goes. I'll be happy for the adrenaline rush.

I'd just alpha them when they undock.