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wormhole/making the moneyz

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Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#21 - 2012-06-04 09:51:58 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I havnt PVEd in WHs for less than 500mil/hour in quite some time.
Theyre still the best isk making out there, albeit the riskiest too.

Exactly what do you need to have to do 500M/h? It's so easy to just throw something like that out there, and many will think that they can do the same amount of ISK if they just fit their Tengu just right, or join the right WH-corp...

Maybe that comment is just Exhale recruitment, what do I know?

Anyway, just to make it clear for folks, I assume that you;

  • Live in a C5/C6
  • Plex the sites that spawn in your home
  • Use a small fleet (6 - 7 ships?) with heavy amount of multi boxing, maybe even solo with 3 accounts?
  • Use triple or full quad escalation
  • Using dreads for dps


Notes;
Counting ISK/h on the plexes in your home might be a bit misleading limiting the total ISK/week, it don't scale, it's not like everybody in the corp can plex 5h / day for a week and make 2.5B / day, is it?

The investment in time/effort to get situated in a C5 and with the SP to use the caps needed is not directly for the super casual player.

I'm not saying that it's impossible for anyone with ambitions to make 500M/h in w-space, just wanted to put things into perspective.

Maybe 75M/h running C2's in a Drake and 15M SP under your belt is more impressive if you take the total investment into account? Lol

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Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#22 - 2012-06-04 10:12:34 UTC
Above post is so very correct.

I'd honestly recommend you to try and fly around in a wh first. Do it in a drake (not kestrel).
Get shot a few times, figure out the odds and ends. Maybe you'll find some nice people. Maybe you won't.
But the way you write about stuff it really seems (no offense) that you have any idea what so ever of what is going on. And it even seems you are about to fall for a good old recruitment scam.

Fly safe.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#23 - 2012-06-04 12:29:45 UTC
Ashimat wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
I havnt PVEd in WHs for less than 500mil/hour in quite some time.
Theyre still the best isk making out there, albeit the riskiest too.

Exactly what do you need to have to do 500M/h? It's so easy to just throw something like that out there, and many will think that they can do the same amount of ISK if they just fit their Tengu just right, or join the right WH-corp...

Maybe that comment is just Exhale recruitment, what do I know?

Anyway, just to make it clear for folks, I assume that you;

  • Live in a C5/C6
  • Plex the sites that spawn in your home
  • Use a small fleet (6 - 7 ships?) with heavy amount of multi boxing, maybe even solo with 3 accounts?
  • Use triple or full quad escalation
  • Using dreads for dps


Notes;
Counting ISK/h on the plexes in your home might be a bit misleading limiting the total ISK/week, it don't scale, it's not like everybody in the corp can plex 5h / day for a week and make 2.5B / day, is it?

The investment in time/effort to get situated in a C5 and with the SP to use the caps needed is not directly for the super casual player.

I'm not saying that it's impossible for anyone with ambitions to make 500M/h in w-space, just wanted to put things into perspective.

Maybe 75M/h running C2's in a Drake and 15M SP under your belt is more impressive if you take the total investment into account? Lol


Jack has posted his setup before, be basically multiboxes a full cap fleet for escalations. Pretty sure 500mil an hour is what he gets per client.

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Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#24 - 2012-06-04 12:38:47 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Jack has posted his setup before, be basically multiboxes a full cap fleet for escalations. Pretty sure 500mil an hour is what he gets per client.

Don't doubt that for a minute. But how relevant is that number?

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Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#25 - 2012-06-04 13:03:01 UTC
Ashimat wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Jack has posted his setup before, be basically multiboxes a full cap fleet for escalations. Pretty sure 500mil an hour is what he gets per client.

Don't doubt that for a minute. But how relevant is that number?

I have around 17M sp, am in a small corporation, and I dual box in a fleet doing full capital escalations, so it is completely possible even for a fresh character.

However, the amount of time spent doing PvE is a very small fraction of the time I or anyone else spends in wormholes so all these isk/h values are always skewed. Should we count the days spent focusing on PvP ops, and the days when everyone else in the corp is playing Diablo and and and? If I count only the few hours per week I am actually on anomalies, the isk/h values are huge... but if I count all the hours I am online scouting or stalking some neighbouring wormhole dwellers or just chatting with corp mates, the same ratio looks completely different. The very point of making isk fast though is so you could afford to do more of the more interesting things, such as PvP.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-04 13:26:30 UTC
Ashimat wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Jack has posted his setup before, be basically multiboxes a full cap fleet for escalations. Pretty sure 500mil an hour is what he gets per client.

Don't doubt that for a minute. But how relevant is that number?


its relevent. 500m an hour is easily done with a full quad escalation fleet (any corp/alliance living in a c5/6 should be able to do this) where everyone just uses 1 or 2 toons. and those multiboxing usually are the ones like the mindlink booster (afk at pos), the salvager in combination with something that doesnt requiere you to do a lot (2nd carrier or something)

basically. c1-c4 goes from 60-150m an hour, but rely a lot on melted nano ribbons for income. C5 and 6 are stable around 500m an hour since the nanoribbons are just a bonus, the blue loot is where its at.

do note that for c5/6 income you need the anoms in home. when going to your static it goes down to around 150-200m an hour using a single capital. however, most people in c5/6 just farm enough to get their plex and ships and ignore pve the rest of the time
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#27 - 2012-06-04 14:27:14 UTC
In all seriousness: you need to start by reading up on how wormholes work and what they're about. Coming out of missions/incursions and looking to make isk in wormholes is going to result in a lot of disappointment if you jump in blind.

-Fly something cheap until you know what you're doing.
-Learn to use probes
-learn to use d-scan
-Remember to bookmark
-Look before you leap
-Understand that you WILL lose ships. It's about making more than you lose out there.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Leriss Serenthius
CBC Interstellar
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2012-06-04 18:11:55 UTC
I can tell you, that i'm personally making around 50-75M per hour ( including salvage with a cormorant, would be a lot faster with a Noctis ) with my Drake. I don't have much skills, just over 5M and you can check them at http://eveboard.com/pilot/Leriss_Serenthius
I think WH's are a very good option for the brave ones, who dare to risk a lot to make a profit out of it.
WH's are not only about ISK. It's about the fun - you need to check your Directional Scanner to see if nobody is around you, you need to be aware of decloakers, potential combat probes looking for you.
I can tell you from my experience - I was a mission runner before... I was a bit scared when it came to entering WH with my corp, however I can tell you now, that it's A LOT better, a lot more fun, a lot more everything.
I just miss the hookers and strippers, we don't get many new delivieries of them often.
Hyperr
Alpha Qew
#29 - 2012-06-04 18:15:19 UTC
ive been a wormhole before when i very first started playing

i understand i need a probe and a scanner to get in and out of a worm hole and to keep my dscan on at ALL times


ive lived in 0.0 for awhile too. it was great fun and i always kept my dscan up as well.


i just need help refreshing my self currently surving on my last plex before i run out of time for eve :( dont have a credit card any more to resupply my account

but thank you all for putting your input in not looking to make 540540 mill a hour and being a HARD core pver just looking to make enough money to support my account for plexing purposes. "plexing as in 30 day"
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-06-04 22:37:17 UTC
Ashimat wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
I havnt PVEd in WHs for less than 500mil/hour in quite some time.
Theyre still the best isk making out there, albeit the riskiest too.

Exactly what do you need to have to do 500M/h?


cap escalations with an alt booster, maybe alt salvager.

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#31 - 2012-06-05 06:10:38 UTC
On a good day, I make 100M an hour by stalking pimped tengus for 3 hours and then blowing them up. If the loot drop is bad and all the pimp loot blows up, it is less.

I can also make ISK at a rate of up to 1B per hour in nullsec by spending 15 minutes to find a dozen Einherji's abandoned in k-space, probe them out, and loot them with a mammoth. Well...extrapolated per hour.

The same is true for finding a half dozen moon goo POSs in a C1, and looting 1.3B ISK out of them.

Etcetera.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-06-05 06:30:00 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
The same is true for finding a half dozen moon goo POSs in a C1, and looting 1.3B ISK out of them.


moon goo POSs in a WH...
rrrriiiiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhttttttttt........

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Marcus Harikari
#33 - 2012-06-05 08:21:27 UTC
i got a moon goo POS in WH that makes 10 B/hr so much technetium you can call me The Mittani Jr.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#34 - 2012-06-05 14:32:37 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
The same is true for finding a half dozen moon goo POSs in a C1, and looting 1.3B ISK out of them.


moon goo POSs in a WH...
rrrriiiiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhttttttttt........

This actually happened.

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IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-06-05 15:55:28 UTC
Hyperr wrote:
ok thank you guys how can i get into this wormhole business?



Join a corp who already has a WH presence. You'll die, alot, if you try to go it alone.
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Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-06-07 08:25:25 UTC
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Hyperr wrote:
ok thank you guys how can i get into this wormhole business?

You'll die, alot., if you try to go it alone.

Fixed.
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