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Why don't we split up EVE servers into shards?
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Frying Doom
#41 - 2012-06-04 01:02:50 UTC
I presume this is just a really bad troll.
0/10

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-06-04 01:06:14 UTC
The Goon shard already exists, it's called Tranquility

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Shian Yang
#43 - 2012-06-04 01:23:08 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
1) goon shard
2) highsec miner shard
3) small group of IRL friends shard
etc

=) would please everyone


Greetings capsuleer,

No, it would not. If, by some miracle, we should find a way to open the EVE Gate and transfer ourselves to another universe it would fragment the already modest population of New Eden. And, capsuleers that cannot cut it in New Eden should not seek to flee it through this mechanism as it undermines the entirety of New Eden and what it stands for. Why should silliness be rewarded?

Regards,

Shian Yang
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-06-04 01:36:38 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
I'm not in favour of sharding, but at least try and use some logic as to why it's good or bad, as so far nobody has provided any evidence either way. The ones that claim that Eve is a single universe have missed the point that once upon a time Eve had 10,000 people online at the same time and the players enjoyed the game. Remind me again how that is different from 4 shards of 10,000 players each?

Because it reduces the meaning of those players choices.

In EVE, if I make a choice, it changes the whole server, and is part of history because there is only 1 world.

In a multi server world a choice means nothing because people can just go to the other server and ignore it. It is no longer a permanent part of the games history.

EDIT: oh yeah, and 1 more server would effectively double CCPs operating costs, and a 3rd would triple, and so on, which makes it economically unfeasible.


The Mattani has a choice. The individual goon has a brand on his rear.

Your choice has meaning... to you. No one else noticed. Seriously.Roll
DhaMonk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-06-04 01:41:30 UTC
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
4. shard for dumb ideas.


This Shard is already implemented as the Forums.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#46 - 2012-06-04 02:08:06 UTC
sabre906 wrote:

The Mattani has a choice. The individual goon has a brand on his rear.

Your choice has meaning... to you. No one else noticed. Seriously.Roll

I'm sorry you fail to understand the underlying principle of a single shard sandbox MMO.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-06-04 03:01:35 UTC
what is it with people just not getting the very core basic ideology behind eve ?

The game literally smacks you in the face that it is a single server, pvp, player controlled environment, yet people are still intent on advocating for core changes in game mechanics. ( what i find even more incredulous is that most of these people signed up to eve for these very same core experiences, yet they push to change them.)
EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
#48 - 2012-06-04 03:02:45 UTC
Winters Chill wrote:
Marcus Harikari wrote:
1) goon shard
2) highsec miner shard
3) small group of IRL friends shard
etc

=) would please everyone



You don't understand Eve or what its about.

If you want to play "high sec miner" go play X3 or Pioneer or any number of modern freeware elite clones.

If you want to play "small grow of IRL friends in space" try Blockade runner, Minecraft or Shores Of Hazeron.

I'd go quickly if I were you, I think your about to get lynched for being a troll.

How dare you belittle Elite's name by calling that piece of **** aka X3 an elite clone?????????

Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-06-04 03:08:00 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Because one of EVE's main sell points is that it is NOT sharded, numbnut.


Is there something sad when the MAIN SELLING POINT of this game ISNT the ships ISNT the giant combat etc its that its one shard?
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-06-04 03:20:39 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
1) goon shard
2) highsec miner shard
3) small group of IRL friends shard
etc

=) would please everyone



yeah, I'm not sure this would be that good for eve.. if you really want to be separate I guess you could log into sisi.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#51 - 2012-06-04 03:23:11 UTC
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Because one of EVE's main sell points is that it is NOT sharded, numbnut.


Is there something sad when the MAIN SELLING POINT of this game ISNT the ships ISNT the giant combat etc its that its one shard?

Not nearly as sad as thinking a product can only have one selling point Roll

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-06-04 03:26:36 UTC
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Because one of EVE's main sell points is that it is NOT sharded, numbnut.


Is there something sad when the MAIN SELLING POINT of this game ISNT the ships ISNT the giant combat etc its that its one shard?


eh ? ? ! you can not have the "giant combat" without the single shard !!

(beats head against wall in sheer frustration.)
Marcus Harikari
#53 - 2012-06-04 04:57:06 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
You do realise on your "pvpless mining love in" shard, your minerals are going to be worth **** all, as no one dying means incredibly low mineral demand, throw in the fact everyone is mining and enjoy your 0.2isk a unit trit.

NPC Corps will buy minerals = problem easily solved!
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-06-04 05:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbelo Valentinian
Sri Nova wrote:
what is it with people just not getting the very core basic ideology behind eve ?

The game literally smacks you in the face that it is a single server, pvp, player controlled environment, yet people are still intent on advocating for core changes in game mechanics. ( what i find even more incredulous is that most of these people signed up to eve for these very same core experiences, yet they push to change them.)


It's because EVE is the best implemented space game in town in terms of art design, graphics, world design and lore, so naturally people whose main interest isn't combat PvP but want to play a well-implemented space game will try and put pressure on CCP to change it to their liking. It's only natural.

What EVE really needs is a well-designed and largely PvE competitor to EVE. Then you wouldn't get these constant suggestions from PvE players who just want to goof off pretending they're a space pilot (I freely admit I'm one of those, it's just that I'm happy with EVE as it is, and find I'm able to play it the way I want so long as I'm careful - however, it would be nice to be able to relax more, and if EVE had a true - but PvE - competitor, I mean a competitor in terms of quality and lore, I'd probably move there).
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-06-04 05:48:05 UTC
It already is

High-sec
Low-sec
Null
WH-Space

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-06-04 05:59:49 UTC
Would it be too picky to point out we are playing in a galaxy, not a universe? A universe is comprised of galaxies.

Just pointing that out. ♥
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#57 - 2012-06-04 06:09:54 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Would it be too picky to point out we are playing in a galaxy, not a universe? A universe is comprised of galaxies.

Just pointing that out. ♥

Its actually a cluster, not a galaxy. Check your lore.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#58 - 2012-06-04 06:19:00 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
You do realise on your "pvpless mining love in" shard, your minerals are going to be worth **** all, as no one dying means incredibly low mineral demand, throw in the fact everyone is mining and enjoy your 0.2isk a unit trit.

NPC Corps will buy minerals = problem easily solved!

And what do they use the isk for?

Just pile up isk? ISK collecting simulator 2012 ?

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Vincent Wright
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-06-04 06:25:09 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
1) goon shard
2) highsec miner shard
3) small group of IRL friends shard
etc

=) would please everyone


goons wouldnt have a reason to play anymore.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-06-04 21:51:36 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
I'm not in favour of sharding, but at least try and use some logic as to why it's good or bad, as so far nobody has provided any evidence either way. The ones that claim that Eve is a single universe have missed the point that once upon a time Eve had 10,000 people online at the same time and the players enjoyed the game. Remind me again how that is different from 4 shards of 10,000 players each?

Because it reduces the meaning of those players choices.

In EVE, if I make a choice, it changes the whole server, and is part of history because there is only 1 world.

In a multi server world a choice means nothing because people can just go to the other server and ignore it. It is no longer a permanent part of the games history.

EDIT: oh yeah, and 1 more server would effectively double CCPs operating costs, and a 3rd would triple, and so on, which makes it economically unfeasible.


The Mattani has a choice. The individual goon has a brand on his rear.

Your choice has meaning... to you. No one else noticed. Seriously.Roll


I like how you just kinda throw words at the wall and go with what sticks.