Crime & Punishment

What could be kinda cool is have a system where the agressor also has a choice, say.

Corp A wants to wardec Corp B.

Corp A now gets 3 choices.

1, Pay 50 mil a week, Corp B gets 3 ally slots to use.
2, Pay 70 mil a week, Corp B gets 2 ally slots to use.
3, Pay 90 mil a week, Corp B gets 1 ally slot to use.

This could be kinda cool, obviously it should be tweaked so its balanced, my example was to make a point.
That way the agressor can also kinda choose how many hes willing to go up against, but at a higher price.

Maybe you could even have prices as low as 10 mil but then the defender gets up to 5 ally slots, thats a huge amount of extra people you need to fight, just to pay less.

Inferno was supposed to be an expansion to fix FW and High sec war mechanics. I think that what they have implented so far is pretty poor.

Yes it was.

I suppose when your balls drop, you'll finally just come out to lowsec to pvp and actually learn something. There's not much experienced gained from ganking someone in a mission ship that haplessly jumps through a gate you camped like a mouth breathing neckbearded incompetent.

But seriously...come to lowsec. I'm very lonely.

Oh please, mighty sir, inform us plebians on this concept of 'adapt'. I see it posted everywhere but I fear it just be a buzzword. Would you please educate the unwashed and smelly masses.

On a serious note, It's probably harder to get contracts with the mass of corps doing the "0 ISK Defender" route. Oh well.

I agree that it needs work. I love the fact that you can call in allies but yeah it will kill wars.

There should be payment to people for joining as allies, as well as payment to concord for adding them to your war. ANd yeah once the wardecced entity calls in allies I think that teh aggressor shoudl also get to do so, but limited by the size of the enemy they face... So if you wardecc a corp and they call in an ally, the aggressor is also allowed to escalate.

And it should all cost.

Can I has your stuff? :)



Then sign on as a non paid defender, build a a portfolio of successful defense campaigns, and then start charging for it. It's not rocket science but you will have to be good at it...

Edit: Forgot to end my post with "Adapt" :)

One does not simply "build" a portfolio. Also I see you haven't experienced a wardec under the new mechanics, may I suggest wardec'ing someone and let us know how it works out for you.

Link to Devblog? Although invalid, I do give you props for trying to say it's WAD. Everyone else agrees it's broken.

CCP has said they wanted to make merc work more attractive, rather an economically viable career path.

Owait, sorry, I couldn't see your entire post over this massive stack of isk I have made from all the free wardecs. Now I understand. The new system is working so well, that because there are so many mercs griefing the bears with such ferocity and predjudice, that the bears have now started moving to the safer low and nul space. Thank you for clearing it all up for us.

I mostly agree with the OP, but a few things to add (I've said most of these and more in other threads, but am too lazy to repeat myself in full):

1.) There should be a (relatively high) limit on how many wars a corp can be an ally in. Make them pick and choose rather than allowing moar tears and the 0rphanage to accept anyone and everyone.

2.) Dec fees are too high, especially since the doubling mechanic was kept. Start the base fee for corps at 20m (this brings back some incentive to join an alliance, while their currently is none since people with 60-120 members are in the sweetspot for wardeccing). Either eliminate the idea of cost scaling with size entirely, or go with a size differential instead, as numerous people have discussed in numerous threads. Regardless of the mechanic chosen, there should be a hard cap at 250m/week for a war, less if the cost doubling mechanic remains in place. It is absurdly stupid (under the current mechanics) that it is more expensive to dec two 100 man corps than one 200 man corp. Fix it.

Note: You should probably just give up on the "paying for targets" logic that you made up along the way as an excuse since the ally system in its current state makes it blatantly obvious that this is not the way the mechanics work.

Note 2: The new fees totally screwed smaller wardeccing or merc corps (I've noticed several people on previous pages talking about it). No one denies that the old costs were far too low, but baseline 150m for two decs running now is too damn high.

3.) Add some of the more obvious options to the merc marketplace, such as weekly payouts and payouts based on # of ships destroyed. CCP has already said they are working on some of these, so we'll wait and see.

4.) No allies in mutual wars.

5.) Allies are called on a per week basis and are capable of dropping the war at the end of each week (any fees associated with that week would be refunded).

6.) CCP received most of this feedback in the devblog threads and did nothing about it, so I don't know why I'm bothering to post.

I'll post again or edit this if I think of anything else.