EVE General Discussion

For Solar, should you also count the renter alliance? Makes it around 5500 with over 300 systems.

To bad that space all sucks

Fair question. So how many friends do you think it should take to own a system? You know so it doesn't come off sounding like a sense of entitlement.

Actually, it's not necessarily a sense of entitlement. If the space is **** enough that nobody gives a flying ****, then I see no problem with 6 people holding their own system.

Mr T plays Eve +1

we need a new dev blog on where ccp is with this it has been over 6 months since we heard that they were looking at it .

then they come out with this new ui ... its almost like they have A.D.D.

Lets fix sov !!... alright great !! Lets do it !!
oooooooooo look at war dec system... al right lets fix it !!!
ahhhhhh this ui needs to be polished ... I CAN FIX IT !!!
what were we doing again ?? oh yeah lets balance those ships !!
which ship was it ?? black ops i think , oh yeah here is the notes, wait these are from 2010 that cant be right .
oh look at this ambulation wow, now that is really cool, lets do that !! alright here we go !!!

All this back in forth and tail chasing one could be forgiving for having thought they were amidst the chaos of progress .

You can take Sov with a 6-10 active people. Groon took Sov in Tenal while RaidenDOT ostensibly held that region with roughly 10-20 active players. Hell, a one man vanity corp may be able to pull off the same trick in, say, Cobalt edge, briefly. Actually holding that space, or doing anything meaningful with it, well, that's another thing.

The current system for taking and holding Sov isn't exactly an enjoyable system , and if the OP were talking about this because of issues like, say, grinding through the literal billions of EHP to take regions like Branch with their tens of poorly conceived stations, that'd be one thing. Taking Sov in areas with stations at this point requires a super cap fleet and the ability to field a support fleet so your supers can stay on the field. Actually getting that super cap fleet requires either Sov to build your own, or hundreds of billions of ISK to buy them from people dumb enough to sell on the open market. It's a flawed system, and plenty would agree with that point.


That said, i don't think that's what the OP is discussing here? I don't see any actual reasons aside from 'It'd be neat' or 'I should be able to do this, because.' given for why individuals or small corporations should be able to hold sovereign space. Suggestions for why this would be beneficial, how, mechanically, it could work, and such would be better.


'There should be more systems so more people could own them' is a step in the right direction for posting with content, albeit a really bad idea. Adding systems to EVE without having more players to fill them creates more dead regions, like, say, any given low sec region, or remote corners of null sec with terrible true sec. Or just parts of null sec inhabited by people that don't actually live there, like White Noise era Branch, or Raiden era Tenal. More empty space means that actually traveling from places where people live to places where other people live becomes more onerous, and turning 'burn 15 jumps' into 'burn 30 jumps' is a non-starter.

That would be hilarious, but remember IRC does red pen CTAs for small roaming gangs in their space

There needs to be less structure grinding and more violencing of spaceboats with sov warfare, at least cut down the amount of timers. There still needs to be some timers so you have a chance to defend in your own TZ.

Forcing alliances to have 23/7 defense capability wont happen ... period, between language barriers and xenophobic russians you will never get total coverage of all the TZs, and alarm clock CTAs are just plain stupid, its simply not reasonable to expect people to call in sick to work or deprive themselves of sleep over a game.

Maybe make ownership based on # of kills in the system? Whoever has the most kills in the past, say, week, holds sov?

Rent.