EVE General Discussion

Agreed it looks like the Incursion nerf took out between "6 of every ten" and "7 of every 10"

So CCP Affinity or I guess CCP Diagora what have yours stats shown after a month and a half after the Escalation Incursion nerf? The silence is deafening.
I guess with the Inferno bug fires you are trying to put out ( the horrid Unified Inventory ) the impending death of the Incursion communites are the last on your list of things to do?

I know, right?

Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one that plays 23 hours a day

The nerf to the influence regrowth was out of the blue and currently the main reason why so many sites are abandoned. It takes the combined effort of all major fleets to get the influence down. This nerf was totally a swing and a miss and does almost nothing to lower the income of the true shiny fleets, and only kicks the casual runners in the balls.

This is what should have been nerf.

There's no "pro" of incursions, only dudes that have nothing else to do of their time and run those permanently.
Just like you stated and I'm sure it's pretty right in incursions sites as for PI or still mining/rating: the regular player with one account, maybe two, he's not welcome in Eve.

I guess you have some part of the answer, I probably have another and someone else must have the end of it

Pretend there's too much isk in the game when it's a player driven content and artificially get some of that isk out of the game with nerfs, it's not the most intelligent idea ever.

Bad economic model is still bad and yo-yo effect it's something you can't control in a player driven content.

On the other side of the knife there's also the ability to make some stuff npc stuff, like tech, but it's just an example. Could also say minerals.

Fixed 4U

My main concern when I created this thread was the fact that so many players have abandoned running incursions after the nerf, some highsec incursions are left to withdraw completely untouched. Some reasons for this according to replies are:

Vanguard nerf to both payout and increase of difficulty (the blitz and isk faucet nerf)

Unbalance between sites cause difficult ones (OTA, NCN) to stack. Fleets attempting them get quickly discouraged and ragequit (20 mins for a Vanguard?, khtxbye)

High influence regrowth discourages casual fleets from even try and forced hardcore runners to focus all their efforts into a single incursion constellation at a time.

I agree with the vanguard blitz nerf, it was too much. But the nerf was supposed to be a small adjustment, right? .

From what I saw this last weekend, vanguards are still very profitable but Legion blitz fleets are out. Shield Machariel blitz fleets are now king

I believe the influence regrowth ratio seems to be be a server setting with no need to push a patch to change. This setting was really high in the first week of incursions and quickly lowered after complaints. This could be one thing devs could change to encourage more participation. If you see your grind has an actual effect, it encourages you to keep going, doesn't it?

The issue of one type of site stacking is something we have complained since their inception and nothing has been done about it. Come on devs, how hard is to add a limit to the number of same spawn sites per system?

Site stacking was mitigated at least in vanguards when OTAs difficulty was decreased. After the nerf, OTAs are the hardest ones to do, even harder than Assaults NCNs right now.

tl;dr:

Decrease influence regrowth

Make OTAs and NCNs less of a PITA to run

Add a damn line of code to the site spawn algorithm to limit the number of same sites per system.