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Has Hatred gone too far CCP?
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#181 - 2012-06-02 23:41:06 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:

anger and hatred are different.

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2012-06-02 23:48:39 UTC
Personally, everyone needs to chill the **** out. I know eve is incredibly immersive to some, including myself, but don't get so pissed when you get ganked. It's just a game. It's not like your ship or modules are one-of-a-kind. There are thousands of hulks you can buy.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#183 - 2012-06-02 23:58:03 UTC
NO I WILL NOT CHILL THE **** OUT I MUST RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Large Marg
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2012-06-03 00:09:10 UTC
If no one has died in RL then its all good.
Also when it gets to LOATHING start to worry.
Saladinae
State War Academy
Caldari State
#185 - 2012-06-03 00:27:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Saladinae
Reina Supremus wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I don't see any hate. .


Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40762


It's a living testament to the failure of forum moderation by CCP. Also look how many LIKES it receives and how many haters support it.


The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS.

Quote:

Rule number 3

You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .


I made the important part rather easy to see.

Now why is that post still there?

Winmatar > Everything else
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#186 - 2012-06-03 00:39:27 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Quote:

Rule number 3

You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .


I made the important part rather easy to see.

Now why is that post still there?


Yes let's trivialize actual social problems by comparing pixel destruction to them

By that rule all of CVA should be be permabanned for their "hate-mongering philosophy" and covering it up with "role-playing"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-06-03 00:45:24 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Now why is that post still there?

Presumably because it's not "hate-mongering philosophies". Have you tried petitioning/reporting the post? Did you get a response? What did it say?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ayame Tao
#188 - 2012-06-03 00:50:16 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Reina Supremus wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I don't see any hate. .


Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40762


It's a living testament to the failure of forum moderation by CCP. Also look how many LIKES it receives and how many haters support it.


The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS.

Quote:

Rule number 3

You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .


I made the important part rather easy to see.

Now why is that post still there?


Because 'hate-mongering philosophies' does not extend to professing the dislike of your pixelated mining vessel.

This refers to 'hate-crime' which is something you can be arrested and go to prison for - and for which CCP could be liable if they are shown to be allowing and/or condoning it.

People really need to get some context when reading documents that are designed to protect the rights of players and the company. They are not written to cover your butthurt at being ganked. Ganking is not a hate crime.



If you are really misinfomred enough to believe that somebody blowing your stuff up in a computer gamne is a hate crime, I suggest you report the crime to the police, engage a lawyer and sue CCP. Good luck with that.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2012-06-03 00:55:13 UTC
All I know is these boards are getting ugly. Very ugly.

I can has blogging skills!
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#190 - 2012-06-03 01:02:35 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Step 1: give hulk's much better buffer tanks


yes you can do this by fitting a Damage Control II, Micro Auxiliary Power Core II, Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, two Adaptive Invulnerability Field IIs, an EM or thermic hardener and two Medium Core Defense Field Extender Is


i know how to buffer a hulk, i do have an alt that can use it and has mined a fair bit in it (highsec, nullsec, w-space) and that tank is still pathetic.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Saladinae
State War Academy
Caldari State
#191 - 2012-06-03 01:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Saladinae
Ayame Tao wrote:
Saladinae wrote:
Reina Supremus wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I don't see any hate. .


Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40762


It's a living testament to the failure of forum moderation by CCP. Also look how many LIKES it receives and how many haters support it.


The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS.

Quote:

Rule number 3

You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .


I made the important part rather easy to see.

Now why is that post still there?


Because 'hate-mongering philosophies' does not extend to professing the dislike of your pixelated mining vessel.

This refers to 'hate-crime' which is something you can be arrested and go to prison for - and for which CCP could be liable if they are shown to be allowing and/or condoning it.

People really need to get some context when reading documents that are designed to protect the rights of players and the company. They are not written to cover your butthurt at being ganked. Ganking is not a hate crime.



If you are really misinfomred enough to believe that somebody blowing your stuff up in a computer gamne is a hate crime, I suggest you report the crime to the police, engage a lawyer and sue CCP. Good luck with that.


The title of the thread alone is a reference to Hitler's infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf. EDIT: Actually the name HIT++L+E+R is so offensive on it's own that it's not allowed to appear in my response to you.

Any CCP employee or Dev can see that the word Solomon is in my account name. So as Jew I find it doubly offensive that one would make a hate-driven work based on that theme. Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory.

Winmatar > Everything else
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#192 - 2012-06-03 01:18:10 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf.
In what way?
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2012-06-03 01:19:52 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf.


It's not and you should feel ashamed for trivializing one of the worst atrocities in history because your Hulk got ganked

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#194 - 2012-06-03 01:22:17 UTC
Degren wrote:
Nick Bison wrote:
Degren wrote:
Nick Bison wrote:
abloobloobloo


Didn't you quit?


That's the best you could come up with?
So sad, so very sad.

Please explain to me why you think you are worthy of ~effort~
Edit: Nah, nm. Didn't you quit?


No need to explain, you wouldn't "get it" anyway with out it written in crayon. Smile

Quit, well no .. I have unsubbed. Still have 5 days left. Will be back when my RL commitments calm the F down.
Probably fall time.

Nothing clever at this time.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#195 - 2012-06-03 01:26:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Hate really only matters in this case if you let it get to you. If you don't want to read things that make you feel negative emotions, then don't read them. The great thing about the game is you don't need to listen to anyone you don't want to. You aren't required to read the forums and you can always right click a name and select ignore. Making a post like this only encourages goons to keep doing what they do. They like to see people get worked up and "harvest tears" from people. That might be sad and a pathetic way to get attention, but you got to give them props for how effective they are. In the end though, if you want to annoy goons the most, just ignore them and not giving them the attention they crave. It's pretty easy actually.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#196 - 2012-06-03 01:27:17 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
Quit, well no .. I have unsubbed. Still have 5 days left. Will be back when my RL commitments calm the F down.


So much for "I'm done"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2012-06-03 01:31:02 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf. EDIT: Actually the name HIT++L+E+R is so offensive on it's own that it's not allowed to appear in my response to you.

Any CCP employee or Dev can see that the word Solomon is in my account name. So as Jew I find it doubly offensive that one would make a hate-driven work based on that theme. Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory.

Is this guy referring to mein kampf? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution:_A_Manifesto
Is this a reference to hitler's mein kampf? http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/20421

Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to hitler. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it certainly does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#198 - 2012-06-03 02:30:26 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory.

Why is "black" a bad thing? X

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Saladinae
State War Academy
Caldari State
#199 - 2012-06-03 02:35:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Saladinae
Lord Zim

Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:
certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them.


Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts.

Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence."

Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy."

Quote:

"Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.

Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."

They're guilty


He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read.

Winmatar > Everything else
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#200 - 2012-06-03 02:48:16 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read.

Your very own thread? Right here in GD, for everyone to see? You wouldn't! Shocked

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