EVE General Discussion

The advice you said you gave that guy who was asking about mining in a Hulk.

I don't think whether or not you've ever shot at another person's ship makes any difference here.

I see the word "sandbox" thrown around quite a bit on these boards. I also think that different people have different ideas about what it means to play in a sandbox. "It means you can do whatever you want", is a big one.

I would like to have a go at sharing my own definition and encourage your feedback (which I am sure will be spirited).

The sandbox really has nothing to do with what a single player is able is allowed to do. A single player does not necessarily build their own sandcastle. We all take part in building the sandcastle. The sandbox is about a game with defined borders into which CCP threw a bunch of code to generate mechanics and visual elements and then said, "OK guys! Jump on in!"

The only actual content that I believe CCP created was the six races and their backstories. Everything else, Eve Chronicles, great wars in Null Sec, and Hulkageddon are the content.

I have seen a lot of threads about unsubbing. I've also seen a few threads about the miners taking up arms against the regime that oppresses them and fighting back. I would encourage these people to do the latter. Gankers and null sec players like to tell stories of the content that they have taken part in. "I was there during the Incarna revolt", "I was there during Hulkageddon I-V", "I was there for this or that null sec alliance 2000+ players in system war".

You can not affect change if you are unsubbed and nobody will care that you were there when thousands of people unsubbed their accounts during the Great Forum Ragefest over Goons, Gankers, and Windows of 2012. But imagine if in a year or twos time, you could say, "I was there when the miners yelled, "Enough!" and revolted against those that oppressed them and instead of doing it on the Eve-O forums they did it in the game." At best you would at least gain the respect of your fellow players, Ganker and Goon alike. At worst, you might enjoy yourself and never mine again in which case the Eve economy would not crumble. Someone else would just take over the mining and who knows, you might gank them in Hulkageddon VI.

That is what is meant by the sandbox. Multiple players organizing to create lasting and vivid memories of epic gameplay.

If you're assuming that my Career path in Eve is mining, you're sadly mistaken. You can try to justify the exploitation of unbalanced game mechanics against players actively engaging in a specific aspect of game content however you want, it's still just griefing and harassment. Nothing more.

You want more PvP game play content? Go roam low sec, join FW, WarDec a PvP corp, etc. That's where you'll get plenty of viable PvP content. That is if you have the ******* for it.