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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#21 - 2012-06-02 12:26:59 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
If more players post about it, CCP will notice there's a issue.
They will do that without the posting. The posting just feeds the gankers egos.

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Concord does not act like real life Police. Real life Law Enforcement Agencies do 'Protective Custody', 'Stake Outs', 'Check Points', 'Manhunts', etc. If someone goes on a 'Murder Spree', the first couple of attacks may be successful, but then an 'All Points Bulletin' is issued provoking a lot more action by Law Enforcement Agencies. That makes the criminal's actions and movements vastly hampered resulting in said criminal being captured or killed.
So much like CONCORD an the navies, then.

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Don't use the 'Notepad' to vent your anger, file a report with 'Customer Service' and let them know exactly what you think. That's their job and if enough players do it, CCP will definitely investigate the issue.
No. Use notepad to vent the anger, and then write a petition if you still think that anything has been done incorrectly. Don't clog up the queue by complaining about legitimate gameplay.

Quote:
In the past, the Hulkageddon gank contest has always been short term and the duration wasn't long enough to garner much attention by CCP.
…aside from them monitoring the effects they had on the game quite closely to see what they did to the sandbox. As it turned out, it was mainly good things.
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#22 - 2012-06-02 12:37:20 UTC
gmjab wrote:


Additionally, CCP is probably having a good old laugh with them because the game is functioning exactly as it should.



Probably not laughing too hard after seeing yesterday's Server Population Graph.

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Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-06-02 12:50:43 UTC
+1 bump
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-06-02 13:01:24 UTC
Then again, I think the OP maybe on to something. One only has to note the lack of lots and lots of troll posts.
Really, he gets it.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-06-02 13:06:59 UTC
Posting in the chill thread with the goons, ewww i feel all dirty now.

brb shower
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2012-06-02 13:09:12 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
Probably not laughing too hard after seeing yesterday's Server Population Graph.
You mean the one showing an increase in players since the patch, and showing a recovery from the D3 release week?
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#27 - 2012-06-02 13:09:16 UTC
it's all bollox anyway, kill hulks, build hulks, sell hulks, only the blind don't see it.
i care not for those who have lost a hulk, or those who find themselves ganked in high sec, it's all about learn move on and deal with it, or do nothing !

or,,,almost forgot,, whine on the forums,,, most alts are who you think they are.
gmjab
Orium Mining and Exploration
#28 - 2012-06-02 13:21:53 UTC  |  Edited by: gmjab
DeMichael Crimson,
Looks like you have some different ideas about how people could deal with this situation. But I don't mind, this is now a chill thread so I will address your concerns in a chill'n way.

Point 1
The reason being that rage posts are a troll's favourite food. The best way to tell CCP about something is by telling them directly. This way you get your idea across without any people trying to cut you down. If CCP is getting mass mail about the same issue they will see there is a problem. Contacting CCP instead of forum posting will not reduce CCP's attention to an issue. CCP are a nice bunch and they do listen in my experiences with them. Less public hate threads also gives forum mods a break from deleting spam/troll posts. However if you wish to discuss something with the community and not directly CCP, the forums is the best place.

The part about CCP laughing, that was at the fact that people are complaining that CONCORD doesn't save them. The game is working as it should, ganking is not an exploit as some believe it is. But yes, they won't laugh at reduced income.

Point 2
Perhaps I should have worded it a bit better. CONCORD are not a replica of real life police as you pointed. I should have said that they work the same in the way that both can't always save you when you call for help. The example provided was not meant to be serious as indicated by the wink smilie at the end. However broom vs. gun is basically what it will be like, yes you can't win with a broom (or a solo hulk with a little tank) against a dedicated ganker... but at least you tried to delay your death. In some cases, a ganker might arrive looking for an easy kill... but upon seeing your fit may have second thought about if they can do it before CONCORD arrives.

Saying "don't mine" is like hiding in a shop when a bad man is in town. Mining must continue through thick and thin.

Point 3
Agreed mostly. When I said "can't handle defending yourself" it was to imply they were quitting out of anger. In which case it's a bad idea to start venting it in the forums. If you can make a post and be cool about it, I'm sure many will be happy to read those posts.

Regarding Notepad... As Tippia said, writing it all out in notepad will get your anger out. I know for a fact that if I'm angry about something it's good to wait a little bit. When you mind clears some more you may see it's not such a big issue as you thought it was. You can handle the situation much better and can word posts/emails in a more respectful way.

Point 4
As you said, deny them of the verbal tears and mark them as a terrible standing. I do not advise hiding away and as I said earlier, mining has to continue even through the hard times.

Hopefully I've covered most your points. I probably could have expanded and worded stuff a bit better. I know you may not agree with my views... but hey thats what makes every human different. Smile

Chills be with you,
gmjab
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-06-02 14:00:57 UTC
gmjab wrote:
DeMichael Crimson,
Looks like you have some different ideas about how people could deal with this situation. But I don't mind, this is now a chill thread so I will address your concerns in a chill'n way.

Point 1
The reason being that rage posts are a troll's favourite food. The best way to tell CCP about something is by telling them directly. This way you get your idea across without any people trying to cut you down. If CCP is getting mass mail about the same issue they will see there is a problem. Contacting CCP instead of forum posting will not reduce CCP's attention to an issue. CCP are a nice bunch and they do listen in my experiences with them. Less public hate threads also gives forum mods a break from deleting spam/troll posts. However if you wish to discuss something with the community and not directly CCP, the forums is the best place.

The part about CCP laughing, that was at the fact that people are complaining that CONCORD doesn't save them. The game is working as it should, ganking is not an exploit as some believe it is. But yes, they won't laugh at reduced income.

Point 2
Perhaps I should have worded it a bit better. CONCORD are not a replica of real life police as you pointed. I should have said that they work the same in the way that both can't always save you when you call for help. The example provided was not meant to be serious as indicated by the wink smilie at the end. However broom vs. gun is basically what it will be like, yes you can't win with a broom (or a solo hulk with a little tank) against a dedicated ganker... but at least you tried to delay your death. In some cases, a ganker might arrive looking for an easy kill... but upon seeing your fit may have second thought about if they can do it before CONCORD arrives.

Saying "don't mine" is like hiding in a shop when a bad man is in town. Mining must continue through thick and thin.

Point 3
Agreed mostly. When I said "can't handle defending yourself" it was to imply they were quitting out of anger. In which case it's a bad idea to start venting it in the forums. If you can make a post and be cool about it, I'm sure many will be happy to read those posts.

Regarding Notepad... As Tippia said, writing it all out in notepad will get your anger out. I know for a fact that if I'm angry about something it's good to wait a little bit. When you mind clears some more you may see it's not such a big issue as you thought it was. You can handle the situation much better and can word posts/emails in a more respectful way.

Point 4
As you said, deny them of the verbal tears and mark them as a terrible standing. I do not advise hiding away and as I said earlier, mining has to continue even through the hard times.

Hopefully I've covered most your points. I probably could have expanded and worded stuff a bit better. I know you may not agree with my views... but hey thats what makes every human different. Smile

Chills be with you,
gmjab

Well said! ++1 :)
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-06-02 14:16:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
If more players post about it, CCP will notice there's a issue.
They will do that without the posting. The posting just feeds the gankers egos.

This.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-02 16:53:14 UTC
Wilma Lawson wrote:
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
If more players post about it, CCP will notice there's a issue.
They will do that without the posting. The posting just feeds the gankers egos.

This.


Yes, posting will get gankers posting getting the issue more noticed. :)
The Groundskeeper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-06-02 16:59:43 UTC
I'm feeling pretty chill right now I went for a run with my dog and knocked about 12 seconds off my 3k time and now I've got a pleasant endorphin rush but when that wears off I might tickle my pleasure centres by ganking some miners well anyway gotta go see you later
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#33 - 2012-06-02 21:36:27 UTC
I was all excited to find an actual chill thread, then the carebear trolls came out and ruined it [:angry:]

Lets get this chill back on track, shall we?

Much love, bruddah

Tallian Saotome
Official Shiptoaster of the new millenium
International Diplomat for People with Too Much Time on their Hands.
This Space for Sale

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-06-02 21:39:36 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
I was all excited to find an actual chill thread, then the carebear trolls came out and ruined it [:angry:]

Lets get this chill back on track, shall we?

Much love, bruddah

Tallian Saotome
Official Shiptoaster of the new millenium
International Diplomat for People with Too Much Time on their Hands.
This Space for Sale



I say we all go for a jog with a dog like TheGroundskeeper guy and shave some time off eve :P
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-06-02 22:06:23 UTC
Spikeflach wrote:
Wilma Lawson wrote:
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
If more players post about it, CCP will notice there's a issue.
They will do that without the posting. The posting just feeds the gankers egos.

This.


Yes, posting will get gankers posting getting the issue more noticed. :)

Yes. This.
gmjab
Orium Mining and Exploration
#36 - 2012-06-02 23:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: gmjab
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I say we all go for a jog with a dog like TheGroundskeeper guy and shave some time off eve :P


it's a bit rainy outside... but the air out there would be cool. So i'mma go out there and get more chill.

Thanks for the chill'n idea TheGroundskeeper.

Spikeflach wrote:
Yes, posting will get gankers posting getting the issue more noticed. :)

General structure of "there's a problem with the game" topic in General Discussion:

[Legit angry topic post]
- Troll comment
- Troll comment
- Get out comment
- Troll comment
- Troll comment
[Mega OP rage]
- Didn't read lol
- Troll comment
- Troll comment
- Troll comment
- Legit reply
- Argument
- Argument
- Argument
- Troll comment
- All hail goonswam comment
- Troll comment
*Topic dies*

As you can see there is one missing ingredient in that recipe: chill comment. Lucky for us, all the chills have been gathered here Cool

Keep the chills rolling,
gm-"I really need a bigger sign-off"-jab
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#37 - 2012-06-03 00:18:24 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also I highly doubt CCP is laughing about it. Especially if it continues causing more players to unsub and or lowers the amount of active players in-game.

If only there was some sort of graph to show how many players are online every day. You could link it to prove how the population and number of people online is dropping compared to last year, last month, the last 3 months etc.
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#38 - 2012-06-03 00:27:47 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
gmjab wrote:


Additionally, CCP is probably having a good old laugh with them because the game is functioning exactly as it should.



Probably not laughing too hard after seeing yesterday's Server Population Graph.


I noticed Todays maximum was 43,447. Why is that?
Myz Toyou
Nekkid Inc.
#39 - 2012-06-03 00:32:33 UTC
I´m posting here cos I feel pretty chill atm.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#40 - 2012-06-03 00:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Cutter Isaacson
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
gmjab wrote:


Additionally, CCP is probably having a good old laugh with them because the game is functioning exactly as it should.



Probably not laughing too hard after seeing yesterday's Server Population Graph.


I noticed Todays maximum was 43,447. Why is that?



Some people don't know when they are beaten, they just keep blindly marching on spouting their flawed rhetoric time and again, proving how little they understand even the simplest of things.

EDIT: Also feeling pretty chilled tonight. Hit 250 likes, had some great discussions and decided upon applying for a CCL position. A great day all in all Cool

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.