EVE General Discussion

Pretty sure the actual intention is threads like this.

That, and threads like these are really funny.

I can't speak for everyone, but I personally would love to see the removal of highsec mining from the game.


"Slack" implies that there is some objective level of minerals that must be brought into the market. IMHO, any drop in the quantity minerals is an acceptable consequence of the end of highsec mining, so nobody has to pick up the "slack."

My guess is that the elimination of mining would simply leads to more mining in WH/null space. If supply of minerals drops low enough, the ISK/hr metric of mining would go through the roof.

Or maybe just lead to more botting. What do I know?

Maybe I'm just buying into the propaganda, but for the sponsors of Hulkageddon (the Goons) there are 3 purposes that have been discussed fairly openly.

One is an open war on the feeling of entitlement that a growing number of players have. More and more players feel that hi-sec should be a safe place to do whatever is that they do, and that CCP needs to insure that it remains that way. The Goon leaders disagree, and their minions are quick to follow. If the Goons have their way, either the players of Eve will learn that no place is truly safe, or they'll force CCP to once and for all change hi-sec into a carebear theme park. Either way, the slow painful change will come to an end.
Many carebears jumped onto the line that Goons want to destroy the game. In reality, they want to destroy your game.

Second, Goons and their allies control a large percentage of the Tech moons. Being a bottleneck material makes Tech valuable from the start, but blowing up things composed greatly of Tech makes it more so. Hulks require a huge amount of Tech to make, so every Hulk that gets replaced lines the Goon coffers.

Third, just the way they did with Oxytopes, the Goons have been manipulating the mineral markets for fun & profit while simultaneously suppressing the supply, and perhaps more importantly, the perception of that supply.


When it comes to the participants, it can be anything from the yucks of watching 300Misk of someone else's money go *pop*, to farming tears from carebears, to the 'profession' of farming Hulks for their loot and bounty, to one of the bigger goals above.

What's the end-game of Hulkageddon?

You're posting in it.

How exactly did he strike at their wallet?

Gabriel Kaile, Order of Merlin, Third Class, Honorary Member of the Dark Force Defense League, five time winner of Goonwaffe Weekly's Most-Charming Smile award

cuz' what this game really needs the most is another way to make null sec even more profitable for the large deep space sov holders. (sic)

Well tbf James315 is a Goon puppet, so it's understandable he'd support that route. What's laughable is the constant resistance he has for nerfing suicide ganking because y'know, :SANDBOX™:, but at the same time he's obsessively trying to remove a whole part of the sandbox just because he himself isn't interested in it.

First, I am not a puppet. If the Goons agree with me on something, it's because they know I'm right. Should they not agree with me, just for the sake of being obstreperous? Second, the "sandbox" defense of highsec mining has long since been debunked. People are free to mine, and people are free to kill the miners. If the clash between these two forces results in the death of mining, that is the preferable option. It's still wholly within the "sandbox" to eradicate certain behaviors. For example, we eradicated the practice of NRDS, "neutral" stations (think ISS), and sov-holding without defense forces (ASCN), and so on.

If people stop mining in highsec because they want to avoid being ganked, the "sandbox" is working as intended.