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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#81 - 2012-06-02 01:22:35 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).

Sure I'll do this.

Did I mention I'll be doing it in a rohk? Oh, and my screen is probably going to be turned off, but don't worry the macros will keep everything going without me. That is how you RMT types roll, right?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#82 - 2012-06-02 01:25:16 UTC
Drunk Driver wrote:

I'd rather watch videos of old women being shoved out of airplanes.

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WTB Links to aforementioned videos.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Ludi Burek
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#83 - 2012-06-02 01:26:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ludi Burek
Ok, you're obviously someone who I wouldn't call dumb but there is one fail in your proposal preventing this offer from being valid. The demand to mine in a certain region. You say, it's because you want to remote trade hehe, fair enough, but 4 hours outside of forge will not make you bankrupt Big smile

Give free choice, as a regular player has, to choose location of said ice mining and your offer gains validity. Making the parameters to mine in the dumbest possible region even outside of hulkageddon is rolling a stacked dice really.

Besides the issues of trust, this is a pretty legit challenge. This being eve of course what is stopping you from ganking the guy with an alt or.... your main? Or setting up a gank?

See the dilemma? The offer may sound nice in words and you may have good intentions but it's next to impossible to make it fly.

edit: referring to the 300m offer. The entire original post is laughable in every way though Lol
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#84 - 2012-06-02 01:27:54 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.


Does it have to be mining? Because thats what people do constantly in null and WHs.

You think mining is the only thing you can do in EVE that often has long downtime? PvP is the same, although the hunt itself can be thrilling if your mark is intelligent.
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-06-02 02:05:19 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).

Sure I'll do this.

Did I mention I'll be doing it in a rohk? Oh, and my screen is probably going to be turned off, but don't worry the macros will keep everything going without me. That is how you RMT types roll, right?


This thread isn't about ganking. I haven't said one complaint about ganking.

This thread is about the reason that most people given to gank miners.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-06-02 02:15:13 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
As per the rules my initial post you are to emulate an average joe. That is, it's you and your Mackinaw, no hauler. Game is a sandbox but can't enforce having multiple accounts, expecially on people who will probably not use scouts, cyno alts etc. Almost nobody use jet cans for ice anyway. If anything they fleet up with someone else (ARGH! Hi sec miners playing as a team, OH MY!) with an Orca.

The Mack will be tanked of course, since you guys believe it's so game changing, so it's cargo hold will be minimal. Have fun spending half your fine docking to station.


Again, your problem is "emulating the average Joe" when this entire event is a long demonstration about how terrible and stupid the "average Joe's" methods are. If they don't use jetcans or haulers instead of warping back to station every time their hold fills, they're being INCREDIBLY STUPID. If they fly solo in the most expensive barge they can find during Hulkageddon, they're being INCREDIBLY STUPID. Are you starting to get this yet?

Seriously? Mining without a hauler? Are these miners literally ********? Are they that afraid to make a single friend, or are they so greedy they refuse to split their isk with even one other person?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#87 - 2012-06-02 02:21:02 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


I've lived in Curse (G-0Q) for the last year, and made my ISK doing Angel missions. During that time I have lost exactly 0 ships to hostiles, despite doing more missions than I can easily estimate. Constantly monitoring DSCAN is a part of that survival record. Accepting that I will inevitably lose a ship sooner or later due to carelessness, bad judgement or pure bad luck is also part of the game.

If mining is too boring for you to watch the screeen while you're doing it, do something to make ISK that doesn't bore you. I can't fathom the motivation to cling so desperately to an activity you admit to finding so uninteresting.

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#88 - 2012-06-02 02:37:14 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-06-02 02:45:51 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:



you're not hated. You're loved. You're receiving all sorts of extra attention at the moment. Might not be the kind you want, but trust me if you all quit, lots of people would have to find something else to do :)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-06-02 02:50:13 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-06-02 02:50:50 UTC
Bossy Lady wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


I've lived in Curse (G-0Q) for the last year, and made my ISK doing Angel missions. During that time I have lost exactly 0 ships to hostiles, despite doing more missions than I can easily estimate. Constantly monitoring DSCAN is a part of that survival record. Accepting that I will inevitably lose a ship sooner or later due to carelessness, bad judgement or pure bad luck is also part of the game.

If mining is too boring for you to watch the screeen while you're doing it, do something to make ISK that doesn't bore you. I can't fathom the motivation to cling so desperately to an activity you admit to finding so uninteresting.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-06-02 02:51:57 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
I mine actively anyway,.




lololol


This time I mean it for real. PUT UP or SHUT UP
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#93 - 2012-06-02 02:54:10 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP


There are 11-12 other ways to mine safely during HAG than spamming D-Scan. Go do one of those.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-06-02 03:02:03 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP


There are 11-12 other ways to mine safely during HAG than spamming D-Scan. Go do one of those.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#95 - 2012-06-02 03:09:03 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times).


No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP


There are 11-12 other ways to mine safely during HAG than spamming D-Scan. Go do one of those.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP


You're suggesting that people who don't like doing something should do that thing that they dislike.

The gankers are suggesting that people who like doing something slightly modify their habits to counteract other players habits while they continue doing that thing they like doing.

Who's being more reasonable?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#96 - 2012-06-02 03:13:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Le Dei Opus
RubyPorto wrote:


You're suggesting that people who don't like doing something should do that thing that they dislike.

The gankers are suggesting that people who like doing something slightly modify their habits to counteract other players habits while they continue doing that thing they like doing.

Who's being more reasonable?


I'm suggesting that people dont' be hypocrites. As elegantly phrased:

Quote:

I think you hit the nail on the head, and the reason of all the haters in this thread. While 5 mil is nearly nothing, I would say that the fact that no one wants to do it, just shows that they are all hypocritical anyways.They shouldn't expect other people to do what they themselves would never do."


and

"#19 Posted: 2012.06.01 20:50 | Report | Edited by: Archimedes Eratosthenes
Like
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Quote:


Actually, I think the OP is a genius, he/she just proved that your hatred of "semi-afk" miners is ILL-FOUNDED because none of you would bother to be "legitimate" miners yourself.

Your real problem is that you like to make someone the boogey man for all the problems in the game. AFK mining helps this game much more than it could ever hurt it.

How about we all band together and gank the real problem-makers in this game. Goonswarm and their tech monopoly. We should start writing "manifestos" on the Tech bottleneck.

OH WAIT THE GOONS SHOOT BACK!

PS

Everytime I see these afk mining haters I'm going to refer them here so they can proves themselves to the community what good miners they are."



Now sir PUT UP OR STFU
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-06-02 03:19:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Benway Kado
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

As per the rules my initial post you are to emulate an average joe. That is, it's you and your Mackinaw, no hauler. Game is a sandbox but can't enforce having multiple accounts, expecially on people who will probably not use scouts, cyno alts etc. Almost nobody use jet cans for ice anyway. If anything they fleet up with someone else (ARGH! Hi sec miners playing as a team, OH MY!) with an Orca.

The Mack will be tanked of course, since you guys believe it's so game changing, so it's cargo hold will be minimal. Have fun spending half your fine docking to station.

Le Dei Opus wrote:

To fit tank you must also sacrifice mining upgrades in your lows for that DCU and carry ecm drones instead of mining drones. Failure to fit a 30k ehp tank using tech 2 mods and ecm drones (at the expense of mining and cargo output) will either result in a swift death or force you to warp off every time a single dessie shows up, resulting in even less mining output. Fit a tank right and you can easily survive a T3 BC solo attack. Bring an armor tanked Arbitrator with large shield transporters and ecm in the meds and drones you can survive 4 tier 3 Bc's if you wish.

The problem however is that you may as well have a single account going into WH's with a Tengu instead for that much risk and effort.

Yeah, I don't see how any of this precludes throwing my ore into a jetcan, filling it up, docking up, grabbing my badger, and making two quick trips to grab everything. I mean, by your own rules, I can't use my alt or have my buddy bring an orca. I don't see why that means I can't grab my own hauler and haul my own ice? But really, that's besides the point. Flying to the station every cycle would actually make me safer - I can't be ganked when warping or docked. After all, I'm not doing this to maximize my isk per hour, apparently, I'm doing this emulate the Average Joe (who has no friends, mines in The Forge, and doesn't know how to jetcan).

Tell you what. Gimme the 20 or so days to train my alt account up so that I can fly a Mack or Hulk and fit it, and I'll drop corp with him and mine in a system of my choice in Caldari space. I'll even mine in The Forge if you have The Mittani hold the purse - if four hours of remote trading is so important, I'm sure you won't mind putting up, right?

Edit: Oh, and we drop all your silly unnecessary rules. I get to dscan when I want, have programs open if I want, and jetcan if I want. Sound good?
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-06-02 03:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Le Dei Opus
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
[quote=Vaerah Vahrokha]
Yeah, I don't see how any of this precludes throwing my ore into a jetcan, filling it up, docking up, grabbing my badger, and making two quick trips to grab everything. I mean, by your own rules, I can't use my alt or have my buddy bring an orca. I don't see why that means I can't grab my own hauler and haul my own ice? But really, that's besides the point. Flying to the station every cycle would actually make me safer - I can't be ganked when warping or docked. After all, I'm not doing this to maximize my isk per hour, apparently, I'm doing this emulate the Average Joe (who has no friends, mines in The Forge, and doesn't know how to jetcan).

Tell you what. Gimme the 20 or so days to train my alt account up so that I can fly a Mack or Hulk and fit it, and I'll drop corp with him and mine in a system of my choice in Caldari space. I'll even mine in The Forge if you have The Mittani hold the purse - if four hours of remote trading is so important, I'm sure you won't mind putting up, right?



Are you seriously suggesting to jetcan mine in a mining barge? You'll be can flipped as soon as you blink your eye with a pirate corp hiding on the other side of the gate waiting for you to either 1) Be dumb and flip the can back or 2) Bring out a combat ship to thwart the can flipper. either way you'll die to the pirate corp that's hiding on the other side of the gate. Obviously you've never worked or mined a day in your life in EvE.

PS

Is Mittani still emo raging over his 30 day ban?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#99 - 2012-06-02 03:23:38 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:


You're suggesting that people who don't like doing something should do that thing that they dislike.

The gankers are suggesting that people who like doing something slightly modify their habits to counteract other players habits while they continue doing that thing they like doing.

Who's being more reasonable?


I'm suggesting that people dont' be hypocrites. As elegantly phrased:

Quote:

I think you hit the nail on the head, and the reason of all the haters in this thread. While 5 mil is nearly nothing, I would say that the fact that no one wants to do it, just shows that they are all hypocritical anyways.They shouldn't expect other people to do what they themselves would never do."


and

"#19 Posted: 2012.06.01 20:50 | Report | Edited by: Archimedes Eratosthenes
Like
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Beckie DeLey wrote:


But that's a whole other topic for a whole other thread. This thread is for making fun of a dumb that posted an even dumber thread.


Actually, I think the OP is a genius, he/she just proved that your hatred of "semi-afk" miners is ILL-FOUNDED because none of you would bother to be "legitimate" miners yourself.

Your real problem is that you like to make someone the boogey man for all the problems in the game. AFK mining helps this game much more than it could ever hurt it.

How about we all band together and gank the real problem-makers in this game. Goonswarm and their tech monopoly. We should start writing "manifestos" on the Tech bottleneck.

OH WAIT THE GOONS SHOOT BACK!

PS

Everytime I see these afk mining haters I'm going to refer them here so they can proves themselves to the community what good miners they are."


I don't hate people who mine semi-afk. If that's what they want to do, that's their choice. I gank them because that's what I want to do, and that is my choice.

I do, however, dislike people who come to the forums and whine that they were ganked in a game that explicitly allows ganking.

On the forums I offer advice to people who wish to mine in safety, informing them of ways that they could CHOOSE to mine that would prevent them from getting ganked (or at least reduce the likelihood). I get nothing but grief when I do this.

You can Mine in a Covetor and accept some losses.
You can Mine in a Rokh and pretty well never get ganked (120k EHP is a bit much to gank "for the lulz")
You can Mine aligned with a little effort
You can Mine aligned with triple webs, moving 7m/s towards your safe

None of these require you to do ANY dscanning; all you have to do with the last two is look at your overview.
The First one is getting safer and safer now that there's no reward for Covetors
The Second has always been safe.
The third and fourth require only that you watch your overview.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ituhata Saken
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#100 - 2012-06-02 03:24:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ituhata Saken
You know, I've been sitting in the middle of this debate, between James315's self righteous ethnic cleansing campaign against Empire miners and people like you, the bleeding heart AFK miners who think its CCP's job to reward you for mediocrity and provide complete immunity from outside influence. When I joined this dizzying debate I actually sided with the miners, but to be honest, the more people talk the more I like James and the less I side with your camp, Le Dei Opus.

I think the problem I have is I don't know who started it, and all I caught was a 20 page manifesto that I lost interest in reading mid-page 1. But I'm starting to see the issue and perhaps I can help you see it too:

I don't believe that the majority of the players that oppose you hate you because you AFK mine. Some do, and some are purely trolling for tears, some truly mean it. However, I DO believe the majority of players hate you because when they interfere with your AFK mining you come to the forums and demand that action be taken in your favor. I doubt many people will argue with your test that sitting at your computer mining day in and day out would probably be boring, but they expect that when you get blown up because you weren't at your computer and you didn't tank it because you'd rather make that extra 15% yield while you're not paying attention, that you accept responsibility for the way you chose to play, take the loss, and move on.

Furthermore you really should thank Hulkageddon, wouldn't you agree it makes mining more entertaining?

I think so. In closing, rather than PUT UP OR SHUT UP, I, in turn, am asking you to think about it for a minute... truly ask yourself if you deserve to have an effect on all the other players of EvE when you're not even playing while denying them the opportunity to have an effect on you?

So close...