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CCP - Stop allowing one alliance to control the game! or there wont be anyone left
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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-06-01 17:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Tickles
The only thing the goons actually "control" in any significant way was Jita Burning, and that was one weekend resulting from literally months of planning and preparation.

What they do control is the buttons for turning the stupidity of the moronic and vocal against themselves, who then make hilariously uninformed bleating threads like this.

Quite literally, the goons only power is their ability to leverage your own hysterical stupidity against yourself. Just stop being an idiot and a spaz, and the goons will have absolutely no power over you.

So funny...
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#22 - 2012-06-01 17:26:55 UTC
Tallon Sylph wrote:
Goons are forever. Because despite being awful at this game, we're still better than all of you. Also, we're embarrassingly rich.

Now that's a thought to keep you warm on those cold, cold nights as you contemplate how bad you all are at internet spaceships.


Ah now there is a quote that will come back and bite your bottom....remember saying this.P
KoreanSnap PingTurtle
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-06-01 17:26:57 UTC  |  Edited by: KoreanSnap PingTurtle
evereplicant wrote:
KoreanSnap PingTurtle wrote:
Yeah CCP...We are very sick and tired of you allowing the single alliance of Raiden., PL, NC., Goonswarm, TEST, Red Overlord, Intrepid Crossing, not to mention the likes of the bacteria/algae eaters such as Fatal Ascension, 99 Percent, Executive Outcomes, Gentlemen's Agreement, etc. to control all of space as one unit. THIS MUST BE STOPPED, ALLOW THE POWER TO SPREAD TO MORE ALLIANCES.



ROFL LMAO HAHA LOL NICE THREAD OP.

EVER LEFT EMPIRE?


Hmm and who controls that napfest? oh yes Goons....

Umm, yeah, a few parts. Along with the rest of the groups of people I named owning the remainder of space....


???

But that answers my question. Nope, you've obviously never left empire.

[u]GoonWaffe Recruitment Officer[/u]
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2012-06-01 17:28:13 UTC
evereplicant wrote:


Hmm and who controls that napfest? oh yes Goons....


The NC was bigger.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-06-01 17:28:51 UTC
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-06-01 17:29:50 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%
AAA has more blues and they be about da elite pee vee pee yo

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Tallon Sylph
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-06-01 17:32:31 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:

Ah now there is a quote that will come back and bite your bottom....remember saying this.P


Hey it's not like we're going to do something dumb like forgetting to pay all our sov bills.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-06-01 17:32:59 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Tallon Sylph wrote:
Goons are forever. Because despite being awful at this game, we're still better than all of you. Also, we're embarrassingly rich.

Now that's a thought to keep you warm on those cold, cold nights as you contemplate how bad you all are at internet spaceships.


Ah now there is a quote that will come back and bite your bottom....remember saying this.P


The Titanic is surely unsinkable!
evereplicant
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-06-01 17:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: evereplicant
Darth Tickles wrote:
The only thing the goons actually "control" in any significant way was Jita Burning, and that was one weekend resulting from literally months of planning and preparation.

What they do control is the buttons for turning the stupidity of the moronic and vocal against themselves, who then make hilariously uninformed bleating threads like this.

Quite literally, the goons only power is their ability to leverage your own hysterical stupidity against yourself. Just stop being an idiot and a spaz, and the goons will have absolutely no power over you.

So funny...

reported for suggesting i am a disabled person, and this goes for anyone else who thinks they can be abusive...
Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#30 - 2012-06-01 17:33:16 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.
Indefinate hulkageddon

When does it stop?
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
Once alliance should not be able to grow to over 8000 players, one alliance goons or otherwise shouldnr be able to control everything in eve, one alliance goons or otherwise shouldnt be allowed to own 150 high end moons!
Eve has become so saturated that quite frankly no one can compete anymore, no one has the same chances, the one universe platform is no longer viable. Jeez CCP wake up, or there will be no one playing the game!


spikeflatch is right we shouldn't be so rude and offer no counter argument (other than the whole things change pretty regular in eve so we don't care that much if it's goons turn on top for a while)

so to the examples given

jita - one a year or so who cares don't go jit aand nothing will happen to you it's over priced there anyway
ice mining - goons don't control this you're being silly there are ice belts in more than just the northern part of eve i even saw one in empire once
tech prices - prices are set to what people are willing to pay not what people want to get if people didn't pay the price it was then it'd have to go down (oh there is the whole supply and demand thing too with a little room for manipulations but tough basically get your own tech moon and charge less)
indefinat hulkageddon - always has been always will be if goons named a month for blowing up freighters would you then think that whenever a freighter blows up it's because the goons wanted it blown up and not that people are pirates or some people just like to spoil someones day in interweb spaceship land
evereplicant
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-06-01 17:34:41 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%


but you did do a deal over tech....
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-06-01 17:36:27 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%


but you did do a deal over tech....


It won't last. We tried it once before and it erupted in a month long shooting war that ended with 4 titans dead.
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-06-01 17:38:30 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
You are really dumb aren't you


I'm a worthless npc alt poster


Fixed that for you
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-06-01 17:39:04 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%


but you did do a deal over tech....


Implying that ROL or IRC hold any tech

Implying that 99% holds anything

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-06-01 17:39:35 UTC
"Here's 0.0 politics from the perspective of my veldspar Hulk"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-06-01 17:40:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucy Ferrr
CCP isn't allowing anything, we are. CCP doesn't touch stuff in the game. If Goons are going to be stopped it's got to be by players. It's not CCPs job to stop Goons, it's yours. All non-goon players need to form a temporary collation and band together to fight Goons. All alliances need to liquidate all non-necessary assets and begin acquiring Titans. A main alliance who already has Titan support needs to spearhead this collation, seeing as someone like myself that can't even sit in a Dread could not mobilize the forces of New Eden. If the players do not set aside their differences and band together to take out Goons, then the Goons will continue to thrive. We are all big boys and girls we can't run to mommy and daddy. CCP will not do our dirty work, they never have and never will.

I will continue to try and stay under Goon radar until a temporary collation of new eden pilots is formed. On that day I pledge my full support to ridding the universe of the Goon scum.

Admittedly there are a few broken game mechanics that make it much easier for Goons, and harder for everyone else. The two big ones are jech moons, and jump mechanics. Jump mechanics that allow an alliance to defend territory regardless of how far away it is from their home are broken mechanics. But the biggest thing broken that prevents the Goons from ever being defeated is the attitude of the players. The Mittens (don't know how to spell it so I am just gonna call him Mittens from now on) hit the nail on the head with the sense of entitlement some of Eve players feel.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#37 - 2012-06-01 17:40:45 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
lol people think we're blue to PL, ncdot, ROL, IRC or 99%


but you did do a deal over tech....


It won't last. We tried it once before and it erupted in a month long shooting war that ended with 4 titans dead.

This man speaks truth... eventually somebody gets either greedy or bored. This is the way "agreements" tend to end up in EVE.

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Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-06-01 17:43:41 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
CCP isn't allowing anything, we are. CCP doesn't touch stuff in the game. If Goons are going to be stopped it's got to be by players. It's not CCPs job to stop Goons, it's yours. All non-goon players need to form a temporary collation and band together to fight Goons. All alliances need to liquidate all non-necessary assets and begin acquiring Titans. A main alliance who already has Titan support needs to spearhead this collation, seeing as someone like myself that can't even sit in a Dread could not mobilize the forces of New Eden. If the players do not set aside their differences and band together to take out Goons, then the Goons will continue to thrive. We are all big boys and girls we can't run to mommy and daddy. CCP will not do our dirty work, they never have and never will.

I will continue to try and stay under Goon radar until a temporary collation of new eden pilots is formed. On that day I pledge my full support to ridding the universe of the Goon scum.

Admittedly there are a few broken game mechanics that make it much easier for Goons, and harder for everyone else. The two big ones are jech moons, and jump mechanics. Jump mechanics that allow an alliance to defend territory regardless of how far away it is from their home are broken mechanics. But the biggest thing broken that prevents the Goons from ever being defeated is the attitude of the players. The Mittens (don't know how to spell it so I am just gonna call him Mittens from now on) hit the nail on the head with the sense of entitlement some of Eve players feel.


Yes because the last super heavy alliance faired so well against the cfc
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#39 - 2012-06-01 17:44:09 UTC
Quote:
Admittedly there are a few broken game mechanics that make it much easier for Goons, and harder for everyone else. The two big ones are jech moons, and jump mechanics. Jump mechanics that allow an alliance to defend territory regardless of how far away it is from their home are broken mechanics.


Interestingly enough, Goon influence in the CSM has historically supported fixing both of those mechanics to be more challenging... much to their own detriment.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#40 - 2012-06-01 17:46:41 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Can you please demonstrate that they are?

Quote:
When does it stop?
When you make it stop.

Quote:
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
100% incorrect. No one alliance has the ability to control EVE, but it is indeed CCP's vision that it should be possible. It should be possible because that is actually what a multiplayer sandbox is. There is no “your“ and “someone else's” sandbox. There is just the sandbox, and both of you are in it together.

In such an environment, it is right and proper that one entity has the ability to dominate it, should they be allowed to do so by everyone else.

Quote:
Once alliance should not be able to grow to over 8000 players , one alliance goons or otherwise shouldnr be able to control everything in eve, one alliance goons or otherwise shouldnt be allowed to own 150 high end moons!
Why the hell not?!

Why should there be limits to the size of the groups that in a sandbox game?
Why shouldn't one alliance be able to control it all?
Why should there be limits to how many moons anyone can own?

You're not making any sense here. Ugh