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Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-05-31 20:43:53 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.


For me personally, i'll quit when Im not allowed to play the game my way, regardless of what anyone thinks. It could be mission running now but it could be some sort of pvp in the future. I'll quit eve if some other spaceship game comes out that has player driven market but with less douches, until then eve is the only game to play.


You don't actually PvP do you? Blink
Lharanai
Fools of the Blue Oyster
#22 - 2012-05-31 20:44:49 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you.


WRONG

EVE is just a GAME, and normal people play games to have fun or too relax. Something the OP had until something changed and he decided to quit. This is only funny if he belonged to an insignificant group of players. But as long as we don't know that or how many miners are carebear alts and how many casual players, all discussion about what will happen is useless. Please stop telling that crap about "carebears" or "adapt or die" as long as you have more than one account.

The diversion I see in EVE is between hardcore players with multiple accounts and organized in Alliances (yes organization and fleet ops needs time) and casual players with limited time. Time is an important issue for players, as it decides if you participate in organized operations (PVE and PVP) or not. I heard it so often during my time in EVE that players left (and I struggled by myself) because of time issues, that they can't be successful or having fun with being a casual player.

Casual players often tend to PVE (missions and mining) because they can do it alone and don't have to relay on other people being online at the same time and not because they are asocial or hate PVP.

Too make that clear, I am not a miner, I give a **** about my killboard, I get my kick in EVE from mocking the "predators". You could say I am "prey" but I am a frigging good one. But all this recent PVP versus Carebear, EVE becomes Vanilla BS on the forum recently makes me ANGRY.

Ok, end of rant I should stop reading GD

Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-05-31 20:47:27 UTC
joins boxing club

complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-05-31 20:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.


For me personally, i'll quit when Im not allowed to play the game my way, regardless of what anyone thinks. It could be mission running now but it could be some sort of pvp in the future. I'll quit eve if some other spaceship game comes out that has player driven market but with less douches, until then eve is the only game to play.


You don't actually PvP do you? Blink

If you mean roaming looking for randomers or attacking the first person i see for the "lulz", no, i don't enjoy it. Check the corp im in, i don't like "pointless" pvp. Im all for engaging pirates and taking their CO's so the corp gets more income, infact we did just that recently.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-05-31 20:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Darth Tickles wrote:
joins boxing club

complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes


From new player perspective it's actually more like
>Joins a gym
>finds out the gym is full of douches that won't let you use certain exercise machines even if you don't do anything wrong
>quits gym
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-05-31 20:50:07 UTC
I'd reasonably expect anybody posting about quitting to do it with their main, considering that they can't really go after you if you're quitting, now can they?

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Lharanai
Fools of the Blue Oyster
#27 - 2012-05-31 20:51:59 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
joins boxing club

complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes


joins boxing club, has fun in boxing club for years, atmosphere in boxing club changes, has not longer fun in boxing club, leaves.

only funny if he is the only one leaving the boxing club, we will see what the future brings.....hope I am wrong but I am also a pessimist :)

Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-05-31 21:03:32 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#29 - 2012-05-31 21:03:33 UTC
Drop two side accounts who were miners for when I didn't want to keep on the edge of my seat tracking who is in local or d-scan as if I'm living in a WH, Which is no longer the case, so keeping one account to train into ganking and join the mob and burning the universe.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-05-31 21:08:08 UTC
Again another one bites the dust.

Always saddens me to see these types of threads constantly being posted every day now. This has definitely been the trend for the past couple of years, especially in this year alone. Obviously this is a major problem now due to unbalanced game mechanics being exploited on a large scale which seriously needs to be addressed by CCP asap. If there wasn't a problem, this sub-forum wouldn't be filled with threads about the topic of ganking.


DMC

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Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-05-31 21:10:49 UTC
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:
OK, I got to say this debate is pretty getting pretty old. This thread is an attempt to ask a simple question.

My question is, why do I have to read several paragraphs only to get to a terribly inane question?
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#32 - 2012-05-31 21:10:51 UTC
Its more like

Joins gym/boxing club
Realizes everyone sucks at analogies
leaves gym/boxing club

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#33 - 2012-05-31 21:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Freedom comes to the price of responsability.

CCP is still figuring out what could be wrong when 75% of their playerbase is held responsible for as much as dare to mine, whereas the rest can pretty much do whatever they please without consequence and get CCP's blessing.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-05-31 21:16:30 UTC
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll


Im sorry that I don't enjoy doing the things you enjoy doingRoll

"Fueled By Tears and the Fail Whale"

^You are the type of person that i just can't stand in ANY game Ugh
Wolf Kruol
Suicide Squad Gamma
#35 - 2012-05-31 21:18:13 UTC
I say get some hair on your nads and fight back or hire someone who can do it. OR yes leave. Thinking game requires adaptation. You need to evolve or you die.

For attitude towards your style of playing. Yes eve isn't for everyone. If RL is too demanding and you want simpler things to play there is many games out there. Like the others who posted stay away from sandbox. Blink

“If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?

You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!”
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#36 - 2012-05-31 21:18:51 UTC
Well, OP is right about one thing. I imagine that a lot of people who suicide gank get kicks from ruining other people's day and that evidences a pretty sad life or certain personality disorders. But for others it's just a profitable venture. But it's part of the game and it keeps everybody on their toes. It makes doing things in hi-sec feel more "alive."

I just think that the penalties for suicide ganking in high sec are too weak and that those that Concord deems to be criminal shouldn't be allowed into hi-sec without a welcome slaughter and podding. Most convicted criminals on the run aren't welcomed by the local police.
Twulf
Purple Void Corporation
LinkNet
#37 - 2012-05-31 21:19:49 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you.


EvE is not a Sandbox game, please learn the definistion of a Sandbox. EvE has sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox game.

Currently EvE is controlled by pvpers, which means it is not a true sandbox because in a Sandbox, a single group/type of players cannot control the game. Its not hard to understand but you idiots just want to keep saying its a sandbox over and over again, it does not make it true.
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-05-31 21:20:08 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll


Im sorry that I don't enjoy doing the things you enjoy doingRoll

"Fueled By Tears and the Fail Whale"

^You are the type of person that i just can't stand in ANY game Ugh


Ditto,

You posting a whine while referencing your non-existent PvP experience as if to bolster your point.

Can't stand guys like you either. Blink
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-05-31 21:20:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:

I ask this mostly because, it appears CCP is actually siding with the gankers here


you know CCP recently nerfed ganking to the ground right?
which ironically is exactly why it has now become so popular...
i see the current state of ganking to be a giant F U to CCP's caving to carebear tears and whines.

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Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-05-31 21:23:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll


Im sorry that I don't enjoy doing the things you enjoy doingRoll

"Fueled By Tears and the Fail Whale"

^You are the type of person that i just can't stand in ANY game Ugh


Ditto,

You posting a whine while referencing your non-existent PvP experience as if to bolster your point.

Can't stand guys like you either. Blink



Wait...i thought pvp was when i was trading stuff too ?! OH MAH GODS.
Please make up your damn mind, is pvp shooting other players only or interacting with anything player related ?
What whine ? You whined that i don't pvp :S, stop whining already, geeeeez.
Won't feed you anymore of my delicious tears though, you might gain weight.