EVE General Discussion

So the Goons are at Fault for destroying Hi-sec and making miners leave on mass.

Well NO. The fault is not that on the Goonswarm, it is the fault of the miners, the PVE junkies and anyone who uses T2 ships.

Much like the USA's dependance on importing oil, these bonus loving idiots have created a system where they now have to have the Goonswarm's moongoo.

The Current infinite Hulkagedon is little more than an advertising campaign designed to increase the customers reliance on their goo.

What I propose is simple due to the very nature of EVE. The goons don't care about T1 mining and missioning ships, they don't need moon goo to make them. Just use T1, ok you loose some bonuses and life is a bit harder but you don't get ganked either.
Also everyone else needs to help enforce this policy by going out and telling anyone in a T2 ship to dock up and if they fail to do so...Gank them. We need to remove all of these blights on the face of EvE, the total number of whining threads now in existence is the very proof that Empire space has goon to far, we are too dependent on the goo to the point we are willing to destroy the game just to get more goo. With so many posts around at the moment complaining about how Goonswarm is ruining the game you might believe it is true but it is not them, it is the complainers them selves killing this game.

It is almost like the war on drugs, politicians continually complain about how many drugs are making it into their country from another and bitching about how the other country needs to stop the drugs. Just like that this is a "war on goo" and to stop it all you need to do is stop the demand. Make it hard for people to destroy the economy, these T2 users are creating a balance of payments issue and sending too much money to Null. They are destroying your Hi-sec. We must stop all of these T2 ships everytime we see one, they are a curse on the face of EvE.

Remove Empires dependance on Goo, Vote for the fire button when seeing a T2.

And remember Goons aren't killing the game you love, T2 ships are.

Congrats. Now I'm picturing erotic EVE Fanfic.


Edit: ... And holy crap, it exists. Literotica, Sci/Fi Fantasy Section.

Internet, never stop being awesome. And horrifying.

You really need to read the forums more often if you think I am a Goon alt. The ignorance of this poster is a good indicator of peoples lack of understanding of what is really going on.

The fault lies not with the Goons but with the T2 using Idiots. Please everyone for the love of EvE, kill off all the T2 ships you can find they don't deserve to be in Empire space.

This is about as bad as when I suggested Dur Hur Dur / DBRB Erotic slash fic a few months back.

Paging Jade Constantine. Jade Constantine to the thread please. Somebody needs a hooker.

So you want to make those skills people have taken the time to train up totally useless?

You're suggesting people gank peoples T2 ships simply because YOU disagree with their choice of vessel?

In doing so you want to forcibly dictate to the highsec players that they should be playing the way you want to or GTFO?

Hmm...

Remind me again, who was it who wanted to destroy highsec again?

BTW, T2 ships in PvE don't die... EVER... (well, unless the pilot is really bad)... but you're advocating destroying them and therefore creating even more demand for moon goo than would normally be the case because, y'know, EVE players have a strong attachment to the sandbox and choosing their own playstyles.

The costs of T2 are still lower than Meta 4, and in many cases, the T2 is a clearly superior item...until that changes, the goo teat shall be suckled.

And as far as ships go, clearly 1 < 2

Can't say i condone shooting friendlies, but i would go with the idea of keeping out of T2 purchases.

Perhaps go something as far as "shutting down" hi sec by all hi sec PvE dwellers log off for a day or week or just overall don't do anything in hi sec for that timeframe.

No I disagree with people using T2 vessels because that is exactly what goonswarm want people to do. You fly it they destroy it, you go buy another one Goonswarm make money.

T2 ships have caused alot of people to do extra training, I have 3 character with exhumers 5 but give the Goonswarms alliance clear ability to find ways to make them selves money just makes this impractiacal now.

Also how can you say anything bad against Goonswarm if you are paying them. This is like the SUV argument, you will always have people saying its my right to use a huge car which I have no reason for, while contributing 48% of the worlds pollution.
You can hardly say it is your right to use a T2 ship and then complain because it is destroying the environment (EvE).

I dont believe anyone should GTFO about this just stop complaining about something they themselves are causing.

You seem to be under the illusion that ALL T2 ships and modules use Goon™ brand moon goo. While GSF is a major supplier of the stuff, they aren't the only source and to kill off all ships 'just in case' is pretty moronic imo, and amounts to the same kind of griefing tactics being used elsewhere at this very moment.

As I've already said, by destroying the T2 ships and modules, you are actually creating MORE of a demand for the stuff and achieving the opposite of what you are trying to do. People won't stop buying/using T2 ships and modules just because some asshat ganks them a few times, and the gankers themselves are also going to lose money by doing so. The number of people still buying Hulks after the umpteenth gank is testament to peoples stubbornness.

You're playing right into the hands of the Goons with this idea, but maybe that's the plan?