Warfare & Tactics

I would agree with you; I have a hard time seeing the frogs losing their HQs. I do think that this becomes a war of attrition though. Will the squid farmers wear down the frogs who want to PVP or can the frogs hold most of their systems long enough to find a better solution? Be that new blood or just batphone the Minnies ? :)

@Bolster- Not at all. CalMil has shown better strategy at this point than GalMil has. But having a strategy to simply plex systems doesn't equate to being better PVPers. Don't confuse the two.

Also, learn to proofread mate. You average as many spelling mistakes per thread as you do kills per month.

Full disclosure: I'm only in my second week of FW.

The first piece of advice I received when entering FW was to start defensive plexing. My chief concern was stepping on the toes of established FW pilots in those defensive systems, but so far it has not been an issue. I'm also not keen on PvE which I guess is the 'button' that is being referred to here, but I understand (and even my extremely limited experience has proven) that this form of PvE leads to PvP. I saw a steady stream of Caldari traffic in the border systems all last weekend.

As someone greatly prefers solo / small gang to major fleet ops, it seems that this system of tandem PvE / PvP is what is in store for me in the forseeable future, and while I won't live the dream of being a WWI frigate ace, it has been exciting and enjoyable so far. As yet, I'm not too concerned with waiting for the timer if it serves the Federation and draws more solo / small gang Caldari pilots.

...but as I said, I'm new to this.

Squid farmers will be frog farmers once they run out of easily capped offensive plexes.

Lies! Don is a harmless mission alt and BM is just a speed tanker for him.

Actually, I just warped to the plex quietly :)

Well, in this case:

a) So does Super Chair I believe (except for possibly the dev hacks, who knows?)
b) Neither of us had boosts last night. I don't think it's really worth the effort of dragging boosts along unless i) It's a fleet fight or ii) You're fighting significantly outnumbered/outshipped.

And on the topic of boosts, I see a lot of squid fleets dragging a claymore around lately too.

Gals only know how to fight with numbers & or ship advantage aside from a few limited players. The answer for every problem is add more numbers but when we string them out into systems away from their immediate back up they don't do so well.

For the last few months they have acted all smug & have trolled Caldari Militia while they have had clear advantage in the war front while Caldari had no real means to fight back.

Cladari has worked pretty hard at rebuilding our ranks & trying to get corps to work better together and now it's starting to show. Now the new Sov system that looked at first like it might favor blob warfare is actually starting to show that it's quite capable to still fight as the underdog.

Galentte were all about the new Sov system and changes when it looked like they would be the easy victors due to it likely favoring blob warfare giving them the upper hand. However now that it's changed it's now time for excuses and whines that it's unfair.

The last 3 years it was "plexing didn't mean anything".. from Galentte..

When Gals did mad rush of system captures up to patch day ... it's was troll, troll, troll you Caldari didn't want your space..

When Caldari started out plexing the Gals. Just last week it was.. "wait til the bunkers"..

Now this week 3 systems two with station have fallen and it's .. "didn't want that system anyway"..


It's all about excuses with Gal Militia when throwing more blob at the problem doesn't solve their problems and that is the root of their problem. They are pretty much lazy and unwilling to change up their tactics to adapt and just expect to undock to get easy PVP with out having to look or work for it or have very much risk.

I don't think this is true. If you look at my posts pre-patch, I was fervently against the station lockouts before the patch, and I am now neutral on them due to the great pvp I've had in plexes. I don't even known if we'll hold basing systems long term, but if we lose things it's not a huge deal to just up a few JF's and carriers and move to adjacent lowsec, just seems kind of a shame to leave the center of the fw warzone to be in fw.



This is EXACTLY why I am in FW and not nullsec. Pre-Inferno, I had to roam 20-30 jumps or go to Minmatar space to get a fight, things were dead on the Cal/Gal front in my timezone. Post-Inferno, I never have to go more than a few jumps (and consequently, don't have to wait long) to get a fight.

While you may not have been for them, there were many Gals whom were trolling away at them forcing us into high sec and call it the end of Caldari Militia.. ect..ect..

As far as easy PVP, keep in mind this is EVE online, not WoW or WoT. FW gets you easy access to a lot of targets with out having to travel very far, but it doesn't mean you should expect to undock and get PVP when ever you want it.

Granted you can undock and camp some gate and get PVP most likely, but if you expect to get quality PVP then it's something you have to work for and use good tactics to achieve.

Gals have far too many of what I call "lazy PvPers" and this is what hurts you in the long run. The bulk are not willing to put time & effort into looking for, or trying to get better fights but rather just worried how many KM's they can squeeze themselves on to. There are a few that put this effort in but they are very few and far between, the bulk just stay hurled up behind their safety in numbers.

This tactic worked in the past, but now if you want to hold on to your space, you have to be willing to fight out side the safety net of easy reships & extra help 2 jumps away.

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Personally I hope Gals will figure this out and start getting more active with small gang fighting away from their home systems. I'm not a fan of either side getting forced out of low sec, as it's bad for the game in the long run and I'd like to get some much better fights that don't always revolve around 1 group ganking the other because they happen to out ship or our number the other.

It's not that bad to be honest.. I rarely do any offensive plexing, because if I'm roaming/hunting, I don't want to sit in same place. However it's easy enough to run down a defensive timer close to my home while I'm semi afk.